Another L for Roderic Day. Why bother going after Hakim when there’s a genocide going on?

It is a principle of dialectics that "contradictions are inherent in nature, the struggle between the old and the new is the process of development". Mixing religion with Marxism is a fundamental contradiction (idealism vs materialism, as pointed out by RD) that many of us leftist struggle with due to our own unique material upbringings, but one that we will ultimately overcome and unfetter ourselves off the idealism that comes with religion.

RD take is the correct one here but this is not the way to address it, it is simply unempathetic to Hakim (we don't know the source of his spirituality, might be related to his upbringing during war?). A private conversation + follow up post would've been the way to address this.

I wonder what it would take for people on this website to realize that their parasocial daddies can be and often are incorrect. Roderic took a poor communicative tact, but it's obvious to any Marxist that what Hakim wrote is, well, rather silly in its implications. Being charitable, Hakim's view is likely skewed by personal favoritism and this error would be much less likely to come up if he was discussing other religions. Otherwise, one would be forced to conclude that he was catastrophically ignorant about the political functions of religion and the social basis for its creation, and completely oblivious to this ignorance.

Christman fucks up plenty too.

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I do think Hakim's take is pretty bad here. It's a very idealist belief that's fundamentally not compatible with trying to understand the situation trough a materialist lense.

Implying he's a reactionary opportunist is just such a massive overreaction though. You're allowed to criticize other socialists without being insufferable about it.

I would maybe shut up and listen to someone who is closer to the situation, but then again I'm just a corgi with a laptop, the fuck do I know?

Roderick being terminally online is normal for him, like that time he wanted a teacher sitcom to have a school shooting episode and triple down

i love red sails, but RD needs to shut the fuck up on twitter. or maybe focus on promoting theory and engaging in legitimate, helpful criticism instead of smearing other socialist content creators on the pettiest straw man shit

nothing like a terminally online slapfight between minor e-celebs

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Last sigh of the oppresed? how bout you do class analysis smuglord

Gaza is a bunch of lumpenproletariat and kids, jesus christ mate, they don't have anything else to be strong outside of hope of religion. they dont control their lives in any way, israel is the camp guard counting their calories like the fuck

Why are people latching on to this one tweet by Hakim lol

This is just regular Roderic, he takes things to peak seriousness and is allergic to not standing his ground on shit he thinks are fundamental matters of principle and theory.

Pretty much all his other recent posts are about the Palestinian genocide, he just thinks for whatever various reasons that this kind of thinking is opportunism and harmful rather than helpful, and because he is the way he is he feels he has to stand his ground on that point of theory.

Hmm, time to click on this thread about airhead social media personalities. Surely it’ll be lighthearted fun!

gets bowled over by a hundred post arguing about mmt

MMT deez nuts

Roderic is probably the most principled and learned marxist I know online. He's a cool dude and he is definitely not taking an L here.

We should unite with all progressive forces including religious ones. My full critical support is with the PIJ. It totally makes sense for us to look into Islam to understand that perspective and the role it’s played in history and the present. However, ultimately we are materialists and it’s kind of weird to evangelize to Marxists. In this instance Day is principled, but ~~kind of~~ annoying.

Edit: I don’t think Hakim is proselytizing anymore

Religion is the opiate of the masses. Opiates are good medicine to help people get through pain People in the middle east have alot of pain to endure. Hakim as a doctor would understand this

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I didn't understand a word of what that uncle_authority guy said.

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imagine understanding or even wanting to understand god knows what these internecine conflicts are about lol

All of these people need to log off and go do some irl organizing

I feel like Day could've been a bit more tactful, but that doesn't detract from the fact that he's right. Instead of outright rejecting what he's saying, we should examine what he's saying more carefully instead of outright rejecting beliefs we don't like.

Another W for Rod and another L for the deprogram bois. I thought Hakim would be above tailism. Such a shame.

I am not sure why this thinks he can begin to understand what Islam and being Muslim means to Palestinians.

I mean Roderic is not wrong here, he's just an arsehole. Same when he railed against MMT.

Roderic has always been a pseud. I don't get why people take him seriously. His takes are passable if he like spends 90% of his time organizing, but as a take-giver-with-no-real-life-organizing-to-show-for-it, they're complete ass. So much mid analysis.

:sadness: I hate it when my dads fight

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Who is Roderic besides a guy who runs a (admittedly pretty good) blog? Info on the dude is scant online.

Just dropping in to say, I don't really know what the fuck anyone is talking about here. Some kinda egghead graph brain nerd talk.

I used to think he has good takes until I saw him railing against Modern Monetary Theory (MMT), on Twitter (funnily enough, it is also somehow brought up in the bottom screenshot of this post).

These people think they understand Marxism, yet they don’t even recognize that Stalin’s economic policies were not only strikingly similar to the principles of MMT, but possibly the only time the core principles of MMT has been put into practice.

Why do you think the USSR was the only country that achieved remarkable success in state planning? It was the financial system put into place by Stalin, which was immediately thrown into dustbin as soon as Khrushchev took power. Not even China could achieve that without relying on foreign investments and cheap labor.