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Israeli airstrike hits ambulance convoy in Gaza

www.theguardian.com Israeli airstrike hits ambulance convoy in Gaza – video

The World Health Organization's director general says he is 'utterly shocked' by reports of the attack on an ambulance outside Gaza's al-Shifa hospital

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www.theguardian.com /world/video/2023/nov/03/israeli-airstrike-hits-ambulance-convoy-in-gaza-video

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It was a Hamas ambulance... The dozen kids at killed in the area? Hamas. The hospitals we bombed? Believe it or not, Hamas. We're the victims here - look at the number of ~~Palestinian kids~~ Hamas combatants we've been forced to kill in ~~a transparently genocidal land-grab~~ self-defence.

-Israel ~~probably~~.
- Strike the designated refugee camp and the emergency responders responding to the strike? Believe it or not, also hamas
  
  "They were coming right for us!"
  
  Hamas whenever it's convenient.
- I am genuinely wondering how many Hamas they have managed to kill.
  
  Let's run the high-level numbers then...
  
  So far, they've killed ~11k people
  
  The population of the West Bank and Gaza strip is ~5m people.
  
  There's 20-25k Hamas members.
  
  ~45% of the Palestinian population is children.
  
  So far, Israel have killed ~0.22% of the Palestinian population, which would suggest about 55 Hamas fighters and about 5,000 children.
Jesus fucking Christ, Israel. Can you try to at least not hit non-combatants?
- You mean, can you not try to hit non-conbatants?
  
  They are aiming for them at this point
  
  At this moment you get the impression Israel pushed specificity so Hamas would attack, giving them casus belli to wipe Gaza out. You're expecting Israel to claim they found WMD in Gaza any moment now.
  
  Terrorists do what terrorists do.
- Israel, and it's supporters, will say that Hamas was hiding in the abulences. all of the literal children were all terriosts and that being bombed is proof enough they were Hamas. I mean... WHY ELSE DIDN'T THEY MOVE LIKE WE TOLD THEM TOO?!?
  
  It's disgusting BS.
- They don't see them as non-combatants. At this point they are just categorizing anyone simply being in Gaza as part of Hamas.
  
  "If they weren't Hamas, they would have been in the south... where we totally aren't bombing as well"
- It was a Hamas ambulance... The dozen kids at killed in the area? Hamas. The hospitals we bombed? Believe it or not, Hamas. We're the victims here - look at the number of ~~Palestinian kids~~ Hamas combatants we've been forced to kill in ~~a transparently genocidal land-grab~~ self-defence.
  
  -Israel ~~probably~~.
- I’m sure Hamas was only targeting military targets /s
  
  It’s a shit show over there and there are no good sides to pick. It’s a holy war fueled by greedy resource hungry companies and countries.
  
  The solution is NO ONE gets Jerusalem, and it becomes its own nation governed by the UN where no guns are allowed and you can’t talk about religion. I’m sure they’ll go for that hahah.
  
  Hamas are scum but Israel don't present themselves as the moral equivalent of terrorists. So making the equivalence here doesn't help out that much, IMO.
  
  Israel is ten years older on average. Israel has material superiority.
  
  They are responsible in a way the Palestinians just cannot be.
After the Holocaust some worked to make sure it never happened again, but some just took good notes.
- Not agreeing with what Israel is doing at all. But equalling the bombing of a convoy of ambulances, albeit absolutely despicable, is not the same as the systematic, industrial scale eradication of millions of people. It's really making the Holocaust seems less insane than it was. Again, not that that gives the Israeli government a carte blanche.
  
  Israel has, for decades, been engaged in the systematic eradication of the people of Palestine. They have been committing genocide. It's clear their aim is the total destruction of Palestine. While more subtle than the holocaust, the ultimate aim is the same and far more likely to be successful.
At this stage you would have to think anyone still supporting this genocide are sick to their very soul.
Hamas was hiding under the ambulances.
- Actually, inside of them. That's a war crime.
  
  Evidence?
Fucking nazi scum.
So when is Israel bombing Geneva?
- Indirectly through moral bankruptcy they already have.
Transporting Hamas terrorists.
- Zero evidence, nothing from the footage, another IDF lie to kill kids.
  
  I wasn't sure they are purely genocidal but my belief has changed now.
Damage looks more consistent with grenade shrapnel than an "airstrike".
- The IDF claimed responsibility already you dunce. Go back to polishing the next set of boots you plan to lick.
  
  They claimed they hit an ambulance carrying Hamas personnel, there's no confirmation that it was this specific ambulance.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/hamas-tried-to-hijack-ambulances-during-gaza-war-20090126-gdtb5x.html

Hamas terrorists made this happen.
- Let's assume those 3 hamas fighters were high ranking officials. Does that justify killing dozens of children? Stop justifying genocide.
  
  The uncomfortable answer is yes. Civilians die in war, as distasteful as that is. However, there is 1000% more criticism against Israel for a lower number of civilian casualties than in other conflicts.
- This is from 14 years ago!
  
  I hope you're just sarcastic...
- The Jews made Hitler build gas chambers
  
  The allies didn't want to bomb all those concentration camps, killing everyone in them, but there were Nazis in there. You want them to just let the Nazis go unpunished for their crimes? There's only one way to kill very specific people that you want dead. It's an old secret called multiple tons of high explosive.
- How are you going to just bring facts to this shit fest of propaganda driven bias confirmation? Sure HAMAS's stated goal is the destruction and genocide of Israel and just committed incredible atrocities... That ain't going to stop these terrorism apologists from drinking the Kool aid before they even get all of into the cup.
  
  Bombing a convoy of ambulances is terrorism you root. Israel, the red cross and multiple news agencies were notified well in advance of this convoy leaving the hospital to transport these people to Egypt. They even provided Israel with the exact route it was going to be taking. Out here talking about koolaid when your whole face is stained red.
  
  yea, calling out genocide is terrorist apologia. The 7000 Palestinian civilians sure had it coming, didn't they?

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