Minnesota trial to remove Trump from 2024 election ballot begins
Minnesota trial to remove Trump from 2024 election ballot begins
A group of voters in Minnesota are trying to bar Trump from the 2024 ballot under the 14th Amendment, alleging he violated his oath of office by inciting the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.
The trial over an effort in Minnesota to keep former President Donald Trump off of the 2024 ballot began Thursday at the state Supreme Court as a similar case continued in Colorado.
The lawsuits in both states allege Trump should be barred from the 2024 ballot for his conduct leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol. They argue Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which says no one who has “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” after swearing an oath to support and defend the Constitution can hold office.
A group of Minnesota voters, represented by the election reform group Free Speech for People, sued in September to remove Trump from the state ballot under the 14th Amendment provision. The petitioners include former Minnesota Secretary of State Joan Growe and former state Supreme Court Justice Paul H. Anderson.
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Certainly partially responsible but not legally.
Same goes for Uvalde cops. Look how many of them are in jail.
Whether or not someone is in jail is irrelevant. The Constitution does not stipulate that a conviction is necessary.
Whether or not someone is in jail is irrelevant.
Of course it's not. It's proof that the system won't incriminate someone for doing nothing. Hell the Supreme Court has ruled several times that law enforcement has no legal obligation to protect you, what makes you think the President is any different?
I'm not talking about ethics here, I'm talking about things you can point to in a court of law as legal evidence. Generally they have a high bar for convicting most anyone of a crime, not to mention a former President, the likes of which would almost certainly result in public backlash from tens of millions of people and probably end their careers.
Again, the Constitution does not require a conviction.
Then what is the "trial" for?
To remove Trump from the ballot. Which doesn't require him to have been convicted of anything to remove him. I'm not sure why this is so confusing.
It's confusing because trials are typically used to determine guilt. So if they're not determining if he's guilty then WTF are they even doing?
Removing him from the ballot. See the headline of this post.
I'm not sure why you think being removed from a ballot necessarily involves being convicted of a crime, but that seems to be where you're stuck.
Why would they remove him from the ballot of the trial finds that he's not guilty
Why do we keep going in circles here?
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The trial is to remove him from the ballot.
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It doesn't matter whether or not the January 6 trial finds him guilty. The Constitution does not require him to be convicted in order to remove him from the ballot.
Why do we keep going in circles here?
Because you keep not answering the question.
The trial is to remove him from the ballot.
What is the question? What are they trying him for? Why are they trying to remove him from the ballot? Because in the OP it's explained very explicitly but you seem convinced otherwise.
It doesn't matter whether or not the January 6 trial finds him guilty
THEN WHY ARE THEY BOTHERING AT ALL WITH A TRIAL!? WHATS THE POINT?
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