Elon Musk gives X employees one year to replace your bank - ‘You won’t need a bank account... it would blow my mind if we don’t have that rolled out by the end of next year.’
Musk wants your “entire financial life” on his platform.
“If it involves money. It’ll be on our platform. Money or securities or whatever. So, it’s not just like send $20 to my friend. I’m talking about, like, you won’t need a bank account.”
Just wait till Musk learns about banking regulations.
He's already complaining about the EU regulations on social media, but they nothing compared to what banks have to deal with.
There are going to be a lot of people saying how stupid this entire concept is in the comments.
Let me tell you something, as a person who spent years in finance. There's no fucking chance on Earth this happens. You will win the Powerball twice consecutively before Musk pulls this off.
None of this infrastructure exists in X and all of this infrastructure is exactly the kind of shit Musk hates. Automobile regulations are fucking nothing compared to financial regs.
Adoption aside, which you'd have to be fucking insane to adopt this platform as a payments platform, the regs alone will ensure this never, ever, materializes.
What Musk describes will someday exist. He will not be involved, and the day is well over a decade away.
This is "Kanye West running for President" level of stupidity. The people close to him have let him down by not telling him how stupid this is.
Keep burning your money, Elon; I can’t wait until you’re poor enough that no one gives a fuck what your latest horrible hot take or idea was. You won’t be missed.
Oh boy, if Elon Musk has trouble dealing with regulators and oversight agencies when managing his car company or his social media company, imagine what a wakeup call it's going to be when he wants to start dealing with banking regulators. 0% chance he doesn't run afoul of them in the first year trying to run his business by the seat of his pants like he does with all the others.
Yet another half-baked idea to spill out of the mouth of this fucking moron with too much money for his own good.
Prediction: He's going to try to pay his employees in Xits: Your going to negotiate a salary based on a floating exchange rate with a new cryptocurrency and then when it starts to tank he will refuse to renegotiate based on the fact that its headed for the moon!
As someone who worked for a tech banking company many years, you are too stupid to do it.
This shit is complicated as fuck.
Oh and all the tech in the world or capital you could build is worthless unless you have that sweet banking / credit license in US. And lets just say its really really hard to cone by nowadays.
Every time that dude gives another "vision of the future" it just sounds worse and worse.
I don't want another commercial bank but on the internet. I want more non-profits. I don't want self-driving cars. I want better public transportation.
Lets put all our money on a platform rushed in under a year made from an exhausted and abused team of engineers. That sounds like a great idea. Definitely will be well thought out and reliable.
Musk must have a fetish for having government regulators up his ass. The FTC is already up there to where he screams like a pig. Now add banking-but-not-a-bank and they're going to be up there even further.
There are plenty of online banks that do all the stuff people want. So good luck with that. And enjoy all the hideously complex finance regulation & legal obligations that varies from one location to another.
It’s hilarious how Musk gives his staff ultimatums. The fact is they can get other jobs. It’s Musk who is deeply invested in Twitter now and can’t just cut his strings so easily. Why is he the one batting them around and threatening them all the time? What the hell kind of gluttons for punishment are still working there?
Musk has become erratic, irrational, and volatile. These are not conditions suitable for someone who manages other people's money. Financial institutions know this, and will not be a part of his delusions.
It's a pretty bad idea to fire the majority of your employees if you want them to basically recreate Stripe (not just PayPal/Venmo) and somehow mush it into Twitter.
Also, that market is saturated, most banks and credit unions in the US already supports Zelle, and Venmo, CashApp, and PayPal are very estabished tech financial players in this space.
Again, if there ever was a possibility of an American WeChat equivalent to be built, the only one who ever had a chance to build it was Zuckerberg more than a decade ago, during the very short time period when the general population was adopting Facebook, but the old Facebook users have not started migrating off it. Trying to build WeChat in the US in 2023 is foolish at best.
I've worked in financial tech (now called 'fin tech) since 1994. In the USA, We have more laws governing our banks than our food. I've got my popcorn to watch this...
I feel like at this point Muskys strategy with X is "well I own a software company now so we'll just make all the software" with literally zero understanding of the context or how that must work.
I think it's pretty telling in some of his comments about "well my space x engineers flew a rocket so they should know how to make a social media better than Twitter employees" as if those skills translate whatsofuckingever.
He has no idea how different types of software work, the context in which they'll be used, and has no fucking clue that you can't just upend the entire global financial institutions. But his devs flew a rocket so they should be able to drive a car, write social media software, write banking software, etc because those are all just easier.
I go on twitter now and 3/4 of adverts are AI scams or 2009 click bait with fuckin community notes explaining that remembering a set of politicians names is not linked to hi iq, as claimed by the clickbait advert.
Then there is the 'verified' accounts that are doing genuine harm at misinformation spread.
Yeah I'm not trusting ol musky chuckles with my money. And that's coming from someone who uses traditional banks despite having witnessed their government bail out banks multiple times after they were fucking reckless to the point of needing a bailout.
With clowns like this running the show stuffing your money under the mattress like the old depression-era trope seems a better and better idea. Unstable billionaires, AI being dragged into Wall Street, domestic and geopolitical fuckery…. Makes me wonder what my 401k will look like in 20 years, or even 50. Just more middle-class money propping up rich people only to be set on fire before I get to it?
I still have a Twitter eh I mean X account. Don't really use it that much, other than following other people. But no way I'm letting one of Elon's companies handle my finances.
Seems like he is going ahead with the X "The Everything App" idea. I'm glad I use parts of the Fediverse and hope to build my own instance at some stage as I really don't want people like Musk owning my data let alone charge me for it and control my money.
Hard to see from down here if his (mental)ballistic curve is already falling or if he's still in the zero-g phase, but kinda interesting to watch. Uuh, that'll make a loud splash when he hits the ground.
Unless twitter gets an actual bank charter and is regulated by the FDIC, X wouldn’t get a cent from me. Even if they claimed to pay incredible APY. Elon musk would steal billions from his customers and wouldn’t blink. And if your deposits aren’t insured then your money isn’t real.
Yanis Varoufakis said a while back that Elon is trying to replicate China's Wechat, which basically does all this. Owning digital platforms and having total control over them is now the best way to make money, and Elon basically wants that for everything.
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Elon Musk wants X to be the center of your financial world, handling anything in your life that deals with money.
He expects those features to launch by the end of 2024, he told X employees during an all-hands call on Thursday, saying that people will be surprised with “just how powerful it is.”
“When I say payments, I actually mean someone’s entire financial life,” Musk said, according to audio of the meeting obtained by The Verge.
The company is currently working on locking down money transmission licenses across the US so that it can offer financial services.
“The X/PayPal product roadmap was written by myself and David Sacks actually in July of 2000,” Musk said on Thursday’s internal X call.
“And for some reason PayPal, once it became eBay, not only did they not implement the rest of the list, but they actually rolled back a bunch of key features, which is crazy.
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He's a grifter. All he needs is a routine bet from a billion people and he potentially pays back on loans. He thought it might be possible with subscription, but he's considering a way to emulate previous cryptocurrency manipulation now.
He's not wrong in this case, it's doable. There are many startups building similar services with arguably fewer starting resources. You should run completely in the other direction, but it's not impossible.
Credit products, especially virtual, are easier to create than ever thanks to companies that have built out that infrastructure. Chequing can be facilitated and held by a major bank under the hood in most cases.
It might not be his end game, but it's definitely possible. Now, forgive me while I weep for anyone that uses it if they manage to deliver it.
Let's trust all our saving to this dude making random decision, wannabe memelord, who just sank 40 billion of his own money on a bet.
All that just to take revanche on PayPal who threw him out of the board because they didnt trust him and his idea to have a company called X
I have no idea the limitations of this approach, if any, but just experienced it a few days ago. I bought something expensive online, and the timing was sensitive, else I’d lose out on a lot of money. Then I got down to the final payment. It made me really nervous and would have reconsidered if I knew about it, but the final payment could only be done through bank transfer, but they wouldn’t let me provide the standard routing and account numbers. They had a web app that brings up your banking app, has you login to that, and appears to scrape data. They were able to see my accounts and balances, as well as initiate the transfer. This was so scary, exactly like I’d expect malware to be.
Bviously I changed my passwords immediately and verified there was only one transaction and exactly as I’d expect. However yes, they controlled my bank8ng without being a bank and without any apparent cooperation from my bank. All it takes is normalizing the behavior that will get us all robbed of all we own
This is also Apple's goal, strange they didn't pass the cap yet.
Paypal was the first "digital" bank, we owe him that but to be honest, i won't put my money in a US entity. It is already difficult with most of the digital only EU banks.
This guy wants to be SBF round 2. Watch. People are going to put their CASH on X.com with no regulation or anything while promising crazy returns if you jusf deposit your funds and “stake” your US dollars as a quasi-investment in X, only to have a total rug pull job with X filing for bankruptcy and all the money being unaccounted for. He will sell it as, “we have to have this money because the ADL forced all our advertisers off the platform”. Fortunately, all that’s left of the people on X.com are stragglers and the far right/nazis, so they will just lose their money.
If you are still on X, you’re supporting an anti-Semite ultra powerful billionaire plain and simple. Musk pushing all the same talking points. White genocide, Jews are the cause of their own persecution via ADL, etc. Quit giving this guy your money by engaging on his site.
The other possibility is that it’ll be like Tesla’s self driving tech that has been coming “by the years end” since 2016 and it’s just meant to drive investment. Both are equally likely. The guy is a fucking grifter to the max. I can’t believe I used to think the hyper loop was a cool/realistic vision for the future. Fuck Elon Musk.
That's actually pretty genius, if he'd be able to pull that off (which he most likely can't). Since banks can invent money out of thin air, he can pay his employees in fictional Dollars and so save a ton on employment expenses. As long as there's no bank run, he'd be fine.
Despite my distaste for the dude, more competition is good. Imagine if he really does make cheap, near instant, worldwide transfers possible and not just to 150 countries or something, but to all of them. There's an insane amount of remittance in the system. It's the entire raison d'être for some banks. If you can enter that ranking around the middle, you'll be making mad bank.