The United States Cannot Defeat Iran

And get the technical knowledge stolen by Mossad given how deeply infiltrated and compromised Iran is? I wouldn't think so.

Russia doesn't have a ton of production capacity and last I checked s-400 systems are very expensive, India bought some and they're going to be delivered in future for example and given how much force the west would likely hit Iran with they'd need a lot of them to prevent them being overwhelmed and destroyed by drone and cruise missile volleys. It would be as much an opportunity for the west to gather technical data as either of those powers.

Another problem is as we've seen the zionists are firing munitions from outside of Iran's borders to clear the way. Iranians don't want to engage them in the airspace outside their borders as it risks bringing another country actively into the war against them and also don't have good radar visibility which increases the chance of these systems just being killed without doing much good.

China already got to test their systems with the Pakistan vs India situation I believe. Russia has already tested them against Ukraine.

Neither power seems particularly interested in enraging the US by sticking their neck out here. Both go out of their way to kick the can down the road and bide their time and strength. Russia is full of capitalist liberals who genuinely want to find a way back to some sort of compromise between full NATO membership and the reality that the US and NATO will seek to destroy them because they're not sharing Europe or central Asia and control of those or other parts of the world with Russian bourgeoisie. They want at the very least to PLAY Trump into not escalating in Ukraine and not slapping on more sanctions for as long as possible by not doing anything that would cause him to walk away from negotiations as like it or not they can't win Ukraine decisively in the way they want that doesn't end in a smoldering conflict that keeps flaring up without a negotiated solution and if Trump walks away they fear years more of fighting Ukraine in a drawn out war deep into central and eastern Ukraine at great cost and damage to their economy as there are like it or not problems Russia is experiencing from this conflict and it can't keep this footing forever in a capitalist mode of production. They were able to do a deal with the DPRK because it's already off the chessboard for the US given the DPRK has nukes so it didn't matter to the US that Russia agreed to defend them as it doesn't change a strategic calculus nor is the DPRK near as important to global control as Iran. China has its own reasons as in basically biding its time to build up its own military and because it still hasn't resolved Taiwan and still needs the US economically (which is why they're willing to do deals with Trump and restore access to critical minerals despite some of them being bound to be used in weapons that are likely to be used on China within a decade).

Neither has had a break out moment showing a turn towards outright hostility towards the US which this would be perceived as and both seem to accept the US ruled order of the world. For example despite the staggering sanctions on Russia they haven't moved to destroy dollar hegemony because they don't want to anger the US and Trump and because they believe if they don't they'll get their stolen $300 billion dollars back held by the west.

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"Russia and China will not stand by as their ally is destroyed" yeah no, this feels like cope to me
- Russia and China are unlikely to provide direct military support, but they obviously aren't going to stand by and provide both political and material support. China wasn't engaged in Ukraine directly either, but certainly wouldn't say they just stood by this whole time either.
  
  A lot of good that did Syria in the end. Or Hezbollah. It's cope.
  
  China wasn't engaged in Ukraine directly either, but certainly wouldn't say they just stood by this whole time either.
  How did the PRC contribute?
- Russia can't help Iran because they are already fully committed to Ukraine. They can't afford another front.
  China, however, very likely helped Iran in electronic warfare, both helping Iran target missiles or by jamming iron dome's electronics. They will never admit this, but we might discover their capabilities in the future.
USS Brave Sir Robin (CVN-69), USS Teddy Bear (CVN-71), and USS Fraidy Abe (CVN-72)
Haha
- They were followed up by the USS Trembling Puppy (CVN-75) and the USS Timid Vinny (CVN-70)
  
  These can't be the real names.
- I imagine both Russia and China are quite eager for an opportunity to test their weapons and defense systems against the US in Iran.
  
  And get the technical knowledge stolen by Mossad given how deeply infiltrated and compromised Iran is? I wouldn't think so.
  Russia doesn't have a ton of production capacity and last I checked s-400 systems are very expensive, India bought some and they're going to be delivered in future for example and given how much force the west would likely hit Iran with they'd need a lot of them to prevent them being overwhelmed and destroyed by drone and cruise missile volleys. It would be as much an opportunity for the west to gather technical data as either of those powers.
  Another problem is as we've seen the zionists are firing munitions from outside of Iran's borders to clear the way. Iranians don't want to engage them in the airspace outside their borders as it risks bringing another country actively into the war against them and also don't have good radar visibility which increases the chance of these systems just being killed without doing much good.
  China already got to test their systems with the Pakistan vs India situation I believe. Russia has already tested them against Ukraine.
  Neither power seems particularly interested in enraging the US by sticking their neck out here. Both go out of their way to kick the can down the road and bide their time and strength. Russia is full of capitalist liberals who genuinely want to find a way back to some sort of compromise between full NATO membership and the reality that the US and NATO will seek to destroy them because they're not sharing Europe or central Asia and control of those or other parts of the world with Russian bourgeoisie. They want at the very least to PLAY Trump into not escalating in Ukraine and not slapping on more sanctions for as long as possible by not doing anything that would cause him to walk away from negotiations as like it or not they can't win Ukraine decisively in the way they want that doesn't end in a smoldering conflict that keeps flaring up without a negotiated solution and if Trump walks away they fear years more of fighting Ukraine in a drawn out war deep into central and eastern Ukraine at great cost and damage to their economy as there are like it or not problems Russia is experiencing from this conflict and it can't keep this footing forever in a capitalist mode of production. They were able to do a deal with the DPRK because it's already off the chessboard for the US given the DPRK has nukes so it didn't matter to the US that Russia agreed to defend them as it doesn't change a strategic calculus nor is the DPRK near as important to global control as Iran. China has its own reasons as in basically biding its time to build up its own military and because it still hasn't resolved Taiwan and still needs the US economically (which is why they're willing to do deals with Trump and restore access to critical minerals despite some of them being bound to be used in weapons that are likely to be used on China within a decade).
  Neither has had a break out moment showing a turn towards outright hostility towards the US which this would be perceived as and both seem to accept the US ruled order of the world. For example despite the staggering sanctions on Russia they haven't moved to destroy dollar hegemony because they don't want to anger the US and Trump and because they believe if they don't they'll get their stolen $300 billion dollars back held by the west.
  
  I hope they realize that Iran is necessary for them and don't abandon it.
The only way the US can possibly defeat Iran is either by using tactical nuclear weapons (which opens a big Pandora box, which can lead to a mutual self destruction scenario or nuclear wars), or by regime change. Israel tried this and failed.