"Carnivore" in name, and doesn't understand the actual labor and land space needed to grow grains and livestock. Checks out.

Imagine having a fucking lawn when you only have 1 acre to grow food lol

That got me too. Peasants could've been grilling and slip-sliding on all the church holidays, what were they thinking using ALL their land for "crops"???
saw [LAWN] and I was immediately able to diagnose the twitter user as suffering from terminal americabrain
- Also really digging the windbreak hedgerow that only does that for about 50ft and from one direction
Yeah, what's the point of having a lawn in the backyard when they would presumably have a lawn in the frontyard already? Are they so lawn-brained that they still need two lawns lol
- hey weeding gardens and managing orchards, tending livestock, chickens, bees, it really doesn't take up any time, so you're gonna want to add 1-4 hours of mowing per week just to keep busy

Grain, famous for it's per-acre productivity

Economies of scale? Never met 'em.
(wait, isn't grain super productive per acre or am i missing something here)
- It comes down to economies of scale.
  In the US grains like corn and wheat go for about $4.25-$5.25 per pound.
  One acre of land can produce about 2.3 tons (48,000 pounds) of wheat.
  So being generous, lets say you could make $240,000 per acre.
  Now you have to factor in the costs to grow, harvest, process, store, and ship that. Along with that you need to equipment to do all of this.
  Ultimately, a large farm might spend more initially for bigger equipment, there going to beat out smaller farms by shear volume.
- Cereals with the exceptions of corn and quinoa aren't really worth it on a hobby farm, which anything under an acre certainly is. Oats, wheat, rye ect are all a pain to harvest and process. Growing corn you can do three sisters and really produce a ton of food per square meter. Quinoa grows kinda bushy but you can stick it anywhere and when it's ready to harvest all you have to do is shake it.
  Wild rice gets an honorable mention if you've got the right spot for it as it essential self seeds needs vary little care and all you really have to do is smack it with stick into tarp to harvest it.
- In calories produced/(year * acre), stuff like potatoes are way more productive than wheat or sunflower or soy IIRC
- It is not very efficient per acre, but it is very efficient in terms of labour required and much more amenable to mechanised farming compared to potatoes.

This is like if people who re into cottage core thought about what a homestead would look like, without doing any actual homesteading.

I've done it. I mean, worked a farm. Worked cattle, and a half acre vegetable garden, chickens and pigs. It's not for the faint of heart. It isn't for redditors and people who post on twitter.

That's not enough room for ANY of that. That veggie garden will provide for a few months at best, in optimal conditions. Less so if you're growing multiple seasons. The fruit trees take YEARS to produce anything worth harvesting. It takes more than two trees of a few varieties, which are in season at different times of the year. There's so much about this that doesn't work.

Fucking larpers man. Are they gonna post about it when none of that works?

yeah i was about to say it looks like a nice hobbyist project that would take a lot of effort, but at best that's going to be a supplement to your total food income and you're still going to be buying 80% of your groceries at best. Not that it doesn't make it worth it as a hobby but come on man, you can't subsist one person off that
I put a bunch of fruit trees in last year. I've gotten nothing from them, I'll continue to get nothing from them for the next few years if I can keep them alive, between weather and animals that just love the taste of young fruit trees.
Even with perfect luck that kind of a layout is a recipe for starvation.
- Right. There's just so much that has to happen flawlessly to get the yields this guy expects from fruit trees.
  In the meantime there's all sorts of blights, and rots, and fungus' and infections and cankers, and on, and on, and on. Deer? Birds? Worms?
  Multiple varieties with different soil needs, and nutrient needs, and watering needs. And some fruits are only good for one thing, like canning or baking, etc. so you're only ever gonna have canned pears, or apple pies because the fruit is too sour otherwise...

This furthers my belief that American libertarians believe Earth is Minecraft

I would say maybe they think it is Stardew Valley, but I don't think libertarians play that game.

tag yourself, I'm "small fruits"

I'm the duck that's nearly the size of a calf

Damn, like 30% of it is green desert. Not a botanical garden or water retention or pollinator garden with a path through it or even just rotating livestock forage, but the most boring and unproductive thing they can imagine. I visited the 1/2 acre~ home of a horticulturist recently and he had an entire forest growing between three ecosystems, at least a hundred species of plants. When I can finally afford a homestead similar to this, I could squeeze like 4x the metabolism out of this space.

This person built their ideology after playing Stardew Valley

The way the crops are split is looking like how I set up my Rimworld colonies to minimise blight spread.
- I've also had good results growing them close together but enveloping each crop in an onion membrane
And they totally went the Joja route on their first playthrough, and not from a "People's Republic of Walmart"-justification standpoint.

Ah yes, the classic 1 acre with a cow, a calf, two pigs, a duck pond and a chicken coop.

Does the artist know how much a cow eats? That ducks can fly? Who cares, vibes vibes vibes!

A lot else is wrong with this, but good luck feeding just one cow off of 1 acre of ANYTHING.

Drop the livestock (minus the chicken) and the grains; expand that vegetable garden, and you can have a nice hobby that gives you some nice fresh food to supplement going to the store throughout part of the year.
- Indeed, that seems more realistic.
- The greenhouse needs to be like, four times as big and it could be twice as productive as the rest of the space they've planned out
good luck feeding just one cow off of 1 acre of ANYTHING
Even a just a couple of goats at a fraction the size of a cow will easily strip an acre over the course of a season and as soon winter hits they're going through like 50lbs of feed a month.
- Yep. And Goats are cool so you should have them over cows.

I've probably been a little too forward over the years about personal details like this but I grew up on a "x farm" (non animal product) and in the summers as a kid I worked on a ranch with a bunch of miscellaneous farm animals doing all kinda bullshit with buckets and bailing wire and all the fun stuff. The amount of land it requires is so much more than these fucking hobbyist dipshits think.

The lady I worked for basically ran a retirement home for old work animals. Old horses and cows too old for work but they're fine animals and she had a big heart. It's so much work tending animals that you don't have to harness up and do shit with. They're big! They eat all fuckin day! It's all they do! Except the horses. They sometimes stare at you like

but just one eye because they have to look sideways to stare because their enormous banana heads.

Anyways, fuck these idiots, swear to christ chuds going all "pol pot year zero but with homesteading" is going to get shitloads of people killed if it ever came to pass because they'll collapse the entire food system from the ground up. Don't ever let these idiots be in charge of the food production.

This is Manifest Destiny/Lebensraum shit lmao

It's 4 (admittedly extremely emaciated cows[or maybe rats?]), how much land could they possibly need, 10,000 sqft?

World's first battery farmed beef.

I'm not too good for star wars slop but "this is the way" is a phrase that irritates me and makes me hate whoever typed it.

If we disregard the comically small pastures which would probably be animal abuse, this is just a large vegetable garden, which is a nice thing to have and not the worst hobby you could be into. It has nothing to do with self-suffucience though.

Fucking Stardew Valley looking-ass shit

Farmville Homestarved

pol pot ass attention to detail from the half-assed anprim hoggers

I know nothing about farming, but if you wanted to be as close to self sufficient as possible on 1 acre (which I'm assuming isn't possible — especially in the winter), would you just do 2/3rds vegetable garden and 1/3rd grain and a small space for a house and equipment shed?

if all you have is 1 acre. and it's you and only you and you're not going to rely on community / trade
your entire acre will be potatoes and you'll pray nightly they don't get blight
if you do it right, you could take a chunk out of your grocery bill after paying maybe twice that in equipment to set it up, but yeah, in terms of self sufficiency you'd probably be best ditching the animals all together. Maybe a bee hive or one pig might be plausible but those should be afterthoughts for you
Fill it entirely with bamboo, subsist off of that like a panda. Hell, we got a volcel pledge going too, why not subsist off of a grass that really, really doesn't want to be eaten?
- Bamboo shoots though are p yummy

The mechanism of animal husbandry in pre-industrial society was usually to extract value out of undeveloped land and/or store value for times of scarcity. It required large ratios of land per human in order to passively extract value through grazing.

This image is fetishism.

you can't fit all that into an acre in sufficient quantity for anything approaching self-sufficiency
for one, to avoid overgrazing the rule of thumb is 1 acre per cow, not like 1/16th an acre per pair
and that amount of grain is like a few dozen loaves of bread per harvest
actual subsistence farming is not possible with that much wasted space
tbh you would need at least 10 times that to be properly self suffiient

minecraft ass garden

Yeoman dream.

I'm a city dweller now but I have family who grow food, raise chickens and such and grew up near pastures with cattle and horses. The amount space for grazing you need for livestock is a ton! There are plenty of places where it makes sense. Rocky terrain with poor soil conditions can be great for goats and sheep. Other areas poor for growing can be good for other livestock like cattle and cattle can be good for natural fertilizer and so on. Point is there are tons of ways to have a homestead where you raise and grow your own food but of all the ways, this isn't it. It's not just bad: it flat out is non-functional. This person not only has never raised livestock in their life but has never even been around it. They didn't even do a basic google on it. They didn't even fucking do the current lazy shit and just ask AI.

Not quite as funny as the chud who included ice cream made from his tradwife's breast milk as part of his homesteading fantasy

I've never in my life met a chud who willingly lived in this small of a house. assuming there's nothing above the garage its a total footprint of 20x30 feet, significantly less than 600sqft interior. This is the kind of house chuds try to split into two dogshit studio apartments and rent out for a profit.

you can't raise an evangelical-sized family in that size house built to american standards. If its two stories its pretty modest, if its one its tiny tiny.

Not to mention the hilariously small animal pens and crop fields

You can supplement your food intake with a garden but you aren't going to be self sufficient on 1 acre lmao, and your garden isn't going to have the same yield as a farm field, and those animals are going to just die or be miserable and you're going to be utterly dependent on wherever you buy their feed from

do the whole thing in turnips and potatoes. and not for self sufficiency, but because neeps and tatties is your ride or die, one and only.

Me after stardew valley

What would that wheat field grow, like two loaves of bread?

Quick maffs, 1 acre can produce 2.3 tons of wheat per growing year. The image looks like about one-sixteenth of the acre is dedicated to grain. That divides out to 140 kg of wheat per year. Maybe you lose 10% of the mass from suboptimal grinding to flour, that's 126 kg of flour per year. 400g of flour per loaf of bread means you could make 315 loaves from 1/16 of a square acre.

Maybe you divide that by half just because of labor constraints, lack of proper industrial ewuipment, and no economy of scale.
- I mean thats still a hell of a lot actually? Not sure what your points are here but i go through a loaf of bread in a week, sometimes two if i havent eaten a lot and stick it in the fridge for toast. So even if you have a family of 4 (or 6) thats still plenty? Obviously a lot of labor involved but in terms of growing capacity it seems plentiful.