[MyGumsAreBleeding] ice ice baby

Then everything is going according to their plan.
If we never fight back, they can keep doing as they please with no resistance.
"The revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it".
The problem is, they're already doing it right now and we don't even have a rebellion to show for it.
If I'm going to get gunned down in the streets, I want to have earned it.
- Yeah. If they come for me I'm gonna make sure that they're not the only ones bringing guns to the fight. That doesn't mean I'll do any damage to them, but I'm screwed either way.
  If enough people do that, enough of us will get lucky shots in before we get dropped. We have the numbers on our side.
this is basically what I picture in my head whenever I hear people around here talking about taking on the government in a revolt it’s not that I don’t want to do that but this is what I imagine will happen
It's why you don't usually do revolts spontaneously and unorganised. Revolts and revolutions are carried by historical moments of general uprising, but those are then organised and directed by groups that enable people to do more than just, well, be killed, or burn down the neighbourhood. It also, depending on the circumstances, will include fucked up shit like this happening, and what happens next is then determined if the reaction to it is outrage, further organisation and potentially violence, or fear and disorganisation.
Vanquishing hope is often part of propaganda aims. And the idea that revolutions happen in some spontaneous "the people just standing up" way is part of that propaganda, because that usually only works for system changes with significant support already within the ruling class. To win a revolution, you need to be able to block logistics centres, sabotage infrastructure, take over communication channels, convince, outmanoeuvre or fight military and (militarised) police, organise international connections, have connections within status-quo power structures - and all that requires networking, organisation and varying degrees of concrete planning beyond spontaneous actions, with varying degrees of secrecy.
Not believing in that even as a possibility can also become a self-fulfilling prophecy - of course the ones going out will be shot if most people stay home in face of violent repression. Meanwhile, it is understandable to have doubts - truth is that a lot of revolutionary movements are grown through bloodshed and escalation - a whole lot easier to make the decision to organise, ironically, if you are already being persecuted and friends are in prison or dead and you feel like the system you are in has nothing to give you, besides the non-guaranteed mercy to be allowed to live if they allow you to.
So, if you do want to do that, don't go out on the street on your own, network with other people, accept that those organisations will not be perfect and that there will be setbacks and terror and hardships, but remind yourself that it is in fact historically proven for revolutions to not be an utterly lost cause.
- Yeah GW essentially had an army
Its part of it. That old man dies and those ice agents go back home to get on their knees for their wonderful life they live.
- Yeah, but the key is: the old man is a Holocaust survivor.
  He knows going in they might kill him, or worse. He knows fascism, death camps, and secret police.
  If they kill him, he knows there'll be a massive public outcry: "ICE agents murder elderly Holocaust survivor." The agents' names and faces will be all over the news, and there will be sob stories from his family and friends. ICE will be publicly compared to Nazis. The agents themselves will be identified and outed even if mainstream media doesn't focus on it.
  And he knows that the guys with guns are too stupid to realize HE has set THEM up for a trap.
That's not at all how it works. The point is to be ungovernable...the way all insurgents defeat the US military everywhere they go.
- Defeat all armed forces everywhere they are. Evil is an equal opportunity employer.
Ideally in real life you'd use guns and bombs instead of showing them a tattoo.

Comic isn't very accurate.

They don't have their faces covered.

Jesus this is dark

Oh right, Trump is President again haha

fuck

It's funny because it's true!

5 + 2 is 7, so this tattoo says 7767.

7 + 6 is 13, so with a bit of extrapolation this tattoo says 131313, obviously a reference to the gang.

Urgh math is hard, but I've found proof, I took a picture during the scuffle :
- You want to tell me that’s photoshop. No, it says clear as day in big letter MS-13
- That can't be real, it's not comic sans, the official font of the US government

Completely unrealistic. They've never have the word ice on their uniforms.

Their faces are also uncovered.

I’d rather die like the guy in the comic strip than if cancer someday. Going it opposing Nazis surely gets you into Valhalla.

Yeah living in the world they intend is functional the same as dieing and going to hell. Death is not the worst thing that can happen to a person.
- Beautifully said.

Microsoft office 13?

Tbf Microsoft has probably killed a lot more people. They've at least generated far more misery in aggregate even if an office job isn't legally considered torture.
Ugh. We don't like all the stuff they shoved down our throats with 11. I hate to imagine 13.
- I thought the odd numbers were always awesome what has happened??

...and every Republican would believe it.

What does the tattoo mean?

Nazis tattooed their prisoners
Read "Night" by Eli Weisel
- If you haven’t read Man’s Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl, do it immediately. It should be as well known as Night.