We have completed our very successful attack on Hawaii
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It's a good analogy (from my limited understanding, that really was how it was presented in Japan at the time.. At least for a short while) but I dang hope it's not an accurate one. The blunder of Pearl Harbor was eloquently put by this famous quote:
I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.
So the key question now is whether Iran was a sleeping giant with more resources to pull from, or if it's really defeated now (or soon to be). I personally believe Iran can't win a war against USA, but it's not going down without a fight. I'm no authority on the matter though, I might be dead wrong.
They didn't have nukes, but they damn sure had what was necessary for a dirty bomb, even if they didn't want to use one. They definitely moved a lot of that material in recent weeks to scattered facilities.
Since it's clear we're attacking them no matter what, I wouldn't be surprised to see one used in Israel or the US in the next year.
Welcome to Washington, DC, the former capital of the US. Please check your lead loincloths and protective gears before leaving the shielded bus.
Pearl Harbor would've been successful if all our aircraft carriers were in port that day, it was honestly the only way they could've won in the Pacific. They bet the moon on a longshot and lost it all.
while the orange dipshits decision to start another war in the middle east is deplorable, it is also entirely on par for how our leaders have acted for the past... 40-50 years? 45 years sounds about right. At least that long. At any rate, the situation isn't really that comparable, I don't think, unless someone cares to correct me. Do we really think this is going to end up that catastrophically for us?
As an Israeli it's definitely going to turn out better for us than if USA hadn't joined in. As for the rest of the world, and specifically USA... I fucking hate where everything is headed, but I think USA can easily win this.
An Israeli who, much like many Americans, is stuck with a government of criminally insane psychopaths he voted against and protested against. I in no way support the actions of the current government.
In January 1941 it really didn't look like USA had the stomach for a fight. They'd spent 30+ years withdrawing from the global stage, there were marches on the street to keep America out of the war in Europe.
The very fact that by 1943 they'd shipped more than a million soldiers 6,000 miles away to an entirely different continent while doing the same thing in the other direction was an unprecedented achievement.
Plus is also didn't look inevitable that the axis would lose, Germany were still steaming forward in Russia at that point it was far from certain who would prevail and if Japan hadn't hit first they would never have achieved anything.
Likewise, the Uranium has probably long left the three known sites in Iran.
Iranian social post comment in 2100:
Operation Midnight Hammer would've been successful if all our enriched uranium was in the targeted sites that day, it was honestly the only way they could've won in the Middle East. They bet the moon on a longshot and lost it all.
Edit to add: I have no idea whether Iran can deliver on it's rhetoric, just pointing out that it seems they'd already cleared out those sites, so the attack might have achieved nothing other than giving Iran the excuse they needed to accelerate their nuclear program. Also, they're visiting russia today, who do have nukes :/
Narrator: But they weren't a sleeping giant. However, Gob's Chicken Dance had, in fact, filled them with more resolve than even they had expected.
Hirohito: I've made a huge mistake
Yay, religious fanatics.
Iran is not a sleeping giant and this was not a mass casualty event. There is no substance here and I find it counterproductive
Israel by themselves is going to flatten them, and holocaust the entire population. I don't know what can be done.
Great example of how absolutely unhinged the statement was.
It's so cavalier and dismissive.
We are not at war with the United States, we are at war with it's Pacific Fleet program!
Man, with how things are going right now, I almost believed this was happening...
I mean, it kind of is.
All planes are safely on their way home.
Not quite ^^'
True, some were shot down. Although if you're trying to make a joke about Kamikazes, they didn't start resorting to that until about 3 years into the war.
TIL :) i'll have to read a bit more about that part of history!
Yeah some chickened out and got totally razed by Godzilla.
It's a good analogy (from my limited understanding, that really was how it was presented in Japan at the time.. At least for a short while) but I dang hope it's not an accurate one. The blunder of Pearl Harbor was eloquently put by this famous quote:
So the key question now is whether Iran was a sleeping giant with more resources to pull from, or if it's really defeated now (or soon to be). I personally believe Iran can't win a war against USA, but it's not going down without a fight. I'm no authority on the matter though, I might be dead wrong.
They didn't have nukes, but they damn sure had what was necessary for a dirty bomb, even if they didn't want to use one. They definitely moved a lot of that material in recent weeks to scattered facilities.
Since it's clear we're attacking them no matter what, I wouldn't be surprised to see one used in Israel or the US in the next year.
Welcome to Washington, DC, the former capital of the US. Please check your lead loincloths and protective gears before leaving the shielded bus.
Pearl Harbor would've been successful if all our aircraft carriers were in port that day, it was honestly the only way they could've won in the Pacific. They bet the moon on a longshot and lost it all.
while the orange dipshits decision to start another war in the middle east is deplorable, it is also entirely on par for how our leaders have acted for the past... 40-50 years? 45 years sounds about right. At least that long. At any rate, the situation isn't really that comparable, I don't think, unless someone cares to correct me. Do we really think this is going to end up that catastrophically for us?
As an Israeli it's definitely going to turn out better for us than if USA hadn't joined in. As for the rest of the world, and specifically USA... I fucking hate where everything is headed, but I think USA can easily win this.
An Israeli who, much like many Americans, is stuck with a government of criminally insane psychopaths he voted against and protested against. I in no way support the actions of the current government.
In January 1941 it really didn't look like USA had the stomach for a fight. They'd spent 30+ years withdrawing from the global stage, there were marches on the street to keep America out of the war in Europe.
The very fact that by 1943 they'd shipped more than a million soldiers 6,000 miles away to an entirely different continent while doing the same thing in the other direction was an unprecedented achievement.
Plus is also didn't look inevitable that the axis would lose, Germany were still steaming forward in Russia at that point it was far from certain who would prevail and if Japan hadn't hit first they would never have achieved anything.
Likewise, the Uranium has probably long left the three known sites in Iran.
Iranian social post comment in 2100:
Edit to add: I have no idea whether Iran can deliver on it's rhetoric, just pointing out that it seems they'd already cleared out those sites, so the attack might have achieved nothing other than giving Iran the excuse they needed to accelerate their nuclear program. Also, they're visiting russia today, who do have nukes :/
Narrator: But they weren't a sleeping giant. However, Gob's Chicken Dance had, in fact, filled them with more resolve than even they had expected.
Hirohito: I've made a huge mistake
Yay, religious fanatics.
Iran is not a sleeping giant and this was not a mass casualty event. There is no substance here and I find it counterproductive
Israel by themselves is going to flatten them, and holocaust the entire population. I don't know what can be done.