Also, they already had a deal with the US before Trump voided it
Also, they already had a deal with the US before Trump voided it
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America is a threat to world peace
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Has been for the last 80 years.
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Sad but true
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When a large part of your origin story is being the number one weapons dealer in WW2 with geography conveniently placing you out of range for major infrastructure loss... We really can't be suprised.
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They want people uneducated for a reason.
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It wasn’t cool the first fucking time. It was totally obvious.
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Praise be the MAGAMind Collective! We think so you don't have to!
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Looks like someone else ate the onion. Hah.
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It wasn't okay the first time around either. Anyone credulous enough to believe that obvious bullshit shouldn't have been allowed to form legal contracts for their own safety.
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If Iran really have WMDs the Zionists aren't going to pull the shit they're currently pulling right now.
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Israel is the bully who only talks shit when their older brother is behind him. They forgot to look back this time and got clocked, now they're crying
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The trick is they all want war, so the PRETEND to fall for it. It is like Susan Collins in Maine who keeps pretending to believe Trump learned his lesson but she knows what he is. No one can be as stupid as she pretends to be and still operate a fork and spoon.
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Only Bernie sanders resisted before.
Who will resist this time
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check out the NEW i-ran
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Man. I watched this skit when it came out and I still refer to it. It's lived rent free in my head for 18 years (?!!!) and I only watched it once when it came out. Thanks for that mental whiplash
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military propaganda is hella va drug: top gun maverick, various videos business insider had been posting it on yt on many of the jobs, and plus a bunch of shows.
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But they have cake! And it’s yellow…
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It's not even the same level of propaganda. This time even US intelligence agencies are saying there are no WMD and that Iran was still years away from being able to have one. On the other hand Netanyahu has spent literal decades saying Iran is going to have nukes by next week.
There wasn’t much of a consensus for Iraqi wmds either.
And it was never supposed to be nukes right? It was like chemical weapons or something.
I'm just saying that even organizations that were lying about Iraqi WMD are not doing it now.
The CIA knew it was bullshit but Cheney wanted there to be WMDs so chose to believe bullshit artists instead, if John Kiriakou is to be believed. One of the only times in history where CIA might have been the good guys.
Also, Bush and Blair at least tried to go through the UN, before they just ignored it and did it anyway. This time it's just "oh I guess we're at war now".
I mean, do you want to wait until they actually do have them? I'm not familiar with what Netanyahu has said, but years away seems like a good time to disrupt their program.
Do you always advocate preemptive punishment for crimes that have not actually been committed ("yet")?
And frankly, I didn't trust any of the nuclear powers, especially not the US. Fuck sake we have an orange dementia patient in charge!
I mean hey, your username is on point for your opinion here but uh, no.
No, Netanyahu in particular has been stating Iran will have a nuke in months since about 1995.
Go check the Daily Show's (or maybe its Jon Stewart's?) YT channel for a quick montage recap of Bibi literally claiming this ssme thing for 30 fucking years.
It is 30 years later, and even the official consensus of the US's own intelligence communities is that Iran does not have a nuke, cannot achieve enrichment beyond about 60%.
And that only even happened because Trump trashed Obama's deal with Iran to keep enrichment to only low grade, nuclear power plant levels... which was working, and they were adhering to, and letting the IAEA in to verify.
Meanwhile they are being bombarded by a hostile nation state that has had nuclear weapons since roughly 1970, that constantly does everything it can to lie about that, to prevent IAEA inspectors from being assigned to them.
That nation state is Israel, if that wasn't clear.
So... Iran was previously cooperative and diplomatic.
Then Trump was a backstabbing, bellicose buffoon, and Iran... didn't even revert to MAD, they reverted to roughly 2 steps below MAD, as you'd have to run the 60% enriched uranium through an entire other industrial process to get it to weapons grade, which no one believes they can currently do, and then make that into actual bombs, which is a whole other thing entirely.
The Iranians have already shown themselves to be quite capable of rational negotiations about nukes, and adhere to agreements.
It is Israel and the US who have been irrational, agressive and underhanded, who have gone back on their word, and forced Iran into an impossible situation from their POV.
We could just maybe not act like insane warmongers, and Iran would likely go back to the negotiating table... us assuring them we will stop assasinating their negotiators might be a good first step.
Why? There is no evidence at all that they're trying to build a nuclear bomb, yet you're taking the side of these guys.
100% unironically: yes. I’ll tell you why. The US already has them and has used them on civilians twice already.
I don't think my nation has the right to control what other nations do through military force.
We do it, but I don't think we should
I'd trust Iran with nukes more than the US