If we convict him just one more time...

How come Newsom can’t order the California guard to protect the protestors from ICE?

Isn’t he their commander?

The Guard was federalized which takes them out of Newsom's control and puts them in Dipshit's control.
- Which is scary as fuck to think a president will do that for the sole purpose of antagonizing the citizens of the state.
- Wait, Trump called in California's national guard or Trump federalized California's state guard? Because I was under the impression he couldn't do the latter
- He still has command of other groups. Don't you guys also have a militia?
- I feel bad for the Marines that went there. Imagine being responsible for dishonoring the entire USMC. I don’t think I’ll ever respect them again.
  (No, not even if one beats me up or murders me, just to get out in front of any such sentiment.)
He doesn't want to protect protestors. You're forgetting that he and the mayor are in full control of the police officers that are currently beating protestors to pulp. They are totally on board with what is happening, they just want to be the one in control.
- The media is saying he's a top contender to be DNC candidate for prez. I'm not seeing it.
- What LAPD is doing needs to be investigated and they need being punished for it, but as of now Newsom doesn't have control over national guard, trump used an obscure law with very weak justification to get control of it.
  This is what this lawsuit is about. To get the control back.
Only a few states have state guards, which are like national guard groups that have no connection to the federal government. Most of these are on the east coast in democratic areas because republicans look at them and go: "Why do we have a state guard and a national guard? They do they same thing. If we cut the state guard, we can pass a tax cut!"
However, state guards are perfectly legal. In fact, that is what the 2nd amendment means when it says 'well regulated militia'. Sadly, I don't think California has one.
- I wasn't aware of state guard, but after looking out up looks like California does have it, although it is about 900 troops so I guess that's why it's is almost as if it wasn't there.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Order them to leave (at least) and make the National Guard choose who to follow.
Yes and no. As I understand it, (someone please correct me) Governor control state national guardsmen but the moment they request aid for more National Guardsmen then ultimate control goes to the Commander in Chief.
Long story short, with the pandemic, wildfires etc. National Guard has been answering to the executive branch who then has been deferring to Newsom for direction. But now, it seems the Executive branch is stepping in. Thus the Marines.
Again, I question how accurate this is. The person that explained it to me is a bit questionable of a source.
- I appreciate you being upfront about your source, lol. Here's some info from AP News to help clarify a bit.
  Typically the authority to call up the National Guard lies with governors, but there are limited circumstances under which the president can deploy those troops. Trump federalized members of the California National Guard under an authority known as Title 10.
  https://apnews.com/article/california-immigration-national-guard-newsom-trump-lawsuit-aedf8cdd95ee899c9559d5e54a2e4833
  The relevant part of Title 10 is explained here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406
  Which basically says that the federal government can deploy the National Guard when
  the United States [...] is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation
  So Trump is (falsely) claiming that the protesters are helping Mexico/Venezuela/Wherever to "invade" California. Which is obviously complete horseshit, but unfortunately that same excuse has been working for his other fascist orders such as the deportations to CECOT.
The whole reason for this suit is that trump is taking control of our own national guard through some obscure law so Newsom no longer can control it.
Newsom is fash. He couldn't give less of a shit about protestors. Fash support fash.
- The lawsuit is that trump took away Newsome's control of the national guard. This is why he can't "just order" them.

This is going to end up in blood shed. This shit is dark.

Wait untill you learn that Israel just struck Iran's nuclear sites... including the capital, Tehran.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/13/israel-strike-iran-trump-nuclear-talks
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/world/israel-iran-us-nuclear
- It's not to convict him. It's to make it cease, obviously.
- Good grief... World war 3 could have just started.
These creeps, including Newsom, have all been supporting genocide for more than a year. Really for decades.
Always been dark.

There's like 350 million people in this country. Thousands of people kill themselves everyday. Couldn't a single one of them take someone like Trump with then? No Luigi copycats, really weird.

When is trump ever alone in public at night where someone can just walk up to him and put a few rounds in the orange fuck?
- I didn't say it'd be easy. Or that the perpetrator would live. He's having that big ass parade tomorrow. It'd take planning though.
considering that less than 2000 people kill themselves every day globally, i doubt that america has "thousands of people killing themselves everyday"
but i agree with you, might aswell like wtf
- Nevermind, it's about 135. Man, people have really been overstating this. Maybe it's just the people I'm around. Anyways, that's plenty of people. A couple of them don't have anyone to be hurt by the government on their behalf. That could be a couple senators a day. Special elections at this point, democrats probably winning... except for the martyr thing. Hmmmmm.....

Eh, if his losses in court weren't relevant, he wouldn't bother screeching about them. Not that hard at least. He does seem to like screeching for its own sake.

“I do whine because I want to win and I’m not happy about not winning and I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win", Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Tuesday.
- Sorry. I live in a crazy world. Did he actually say this? He doesn't seem self aware enough to think like this.
He is the biggest narcissist on the planet, he would probably whine if his scrambled eggs were the wrong consistency.

Lawsuits are to convictions like chocolate mousse is to catalytic converters.

A fun way to make a bigger mess?

If only the founding fathers had given us the tools to deal with government overreach. Sadly the founders were just weak men that would threaten to sue over anything the British Empire did and took no action. They taught us nothing. If we could think for a SECOND Im sure we could thing up an AMMENDMENT to the Constitution that would enable a state to repel federal forces from the state. Considering those federal forces are actually state forces (National Guard), and have already been declared illegal by the court ... perhaps a well regulated militia of armed volunteers could be called in to help. Sadly, our Constitution just doesn't allow this.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Liberals have been disarming themselves in California for years, not sure what you're thinking
- And republikkkans have been spiting bullshit like “Don’t tread on me and “we the people” but now getting horny for fascism.
Are you planning to go first?
- It's a long fucking drive to Cali for me.
If only the founding fathers
lol grow up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
- Your post makes no sense.

Yeah, I'd rather try to work through the system than give his orange-ness and the troglodytes more provocation.

Edit to add: as a pissed off Californian with family in LA

This is delusional. Trump doesn't need provocation, he was always going to do this regardless. The "system" you cling to is the same that has allowed him to rise to power and failed to prosecute his crimes many times now.
That’s the third box, and it has already failed.
Yeah, if Trump loses the case then he will say "its the RADICAL LEFT trying to stop me from making America great again" and if he wins he will say "more proof that I have done nothing wrong"