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EU Unveils DNS4EU, a Public DNS Resolver Intended as a European Alternative to Services Like Google’s Public DNS and Cloudflare’s DNS.

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EU Unveils DNS4EU, a Public DNS Resolver Intended as a European Alternative to Services Like Google’s Public DNS and Cloudflare’s DNS.

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I was wondering about some of the fuckery around piracy in the EU atm:
This project provides the European Commission with no means of censorship. Furthermore, this would be against the goals of the project, which aims to strengthen digital sovereignty. The EU will not have access to configuration, data, etc. On top of that, DNS4EU will not be forced on anyone. It will merely abide to local regulations required of internet service provider. In other words, DNS4EU is not a way toward censorship, but actually toward data protection and better internet security and sovereignty for Europeans.
- So it will censor stuff as requested by governments
Why? Ao they can block what they deem to be a pirate site? Nope. Run your own Adguard Home.
- Not sure about adguard, but unless you are running it with unbound or similar, you still have to point it at a DNS server someone else controls.
  With unbound you go straight to the root hint servers.
  
  Didn't know about unbound. Thanks.
A yes, a public dns resolver funded by taxpayers money and nothing of it is open source...
Sounds like a massive waste of money to me. Just give someone like Mullvad (they already have a DNS service that is open source) that money instead of trying to be another shitty DNS Resolver.
Also the company behind this looks incredibly scummy and their products are mostly buzzword-bullshit. The whole company is based on selling a DNS blocklist for as much money as possible.
Also: https://www.whalebone.io/aura-for-consumers
People want to be safe online. They are even willing to pay for it. They just want their telco to offer them a smooth way to get there. Common cybersecurity products struggle with low adoption rates due to the need for downloads. Whalebone Aura requires no installation or updates and activates with a single click.
That's sounds a lot like the ISP is implementing some kind of deep network inspection "to protect you from the internet"... aka censoring.
Mullvad DNS has been great also.
Run your own DNS resolver
How does DNS4EU support NIS2?
“Member states should encourage the development and use of public and secure European DNS resolver service.” NIS2 directive, 2023
DNS4EU, a European initiative, presents multiple avenues for establishing a secure and compliant DNS resolver, aligning seamlessly with EU regulations. Its base lies in the cornerstone EU documents such as the Cybersecurity Strategy of the EU.
Finally, it was recommended in the European Parliament and Council’s directive NIS2.
only one point - the whole setup is...
Nice, but a shame it's not as easy to remember as 8.8.8.8.
- Seems quite easy to remember with a nice jingle, like the emergency number... 🎵0118 999 881 999 119 725🎶. 3🎵.
  
  800 588 2300 Empire today
- Also 1.1.1.1 and 9.9.9.9
  
  Also Quad9 is Swiss which may actually better than EU?
- That's it, I can't use it, fuck.
Any counter indication to using this from Canada?
- In Canada we have CIRA Canadian Shield
  
  Have you looked into their privacy policy, is it alright?
- Don't think so, will be a tiny bit slower to reach.
The EU is already trying to block and censor ips via DNS, so I don't trust this initiative at all, nor, frankly, do I trust the EU as an organization. It should stick to foreign policy, not trying to overrule our national governments to force legislation onto us that we don't want.
- This isn't really on topic but since you mentioned it, the only way for Europe to stay relevant is if we integrate more.
  
  That depends on what you mean by integrate. There are many clear examples where it makes no sense to enforce homogenous legislation. Europe is a big place, and it makes sense to have different systems in different places.
  Take tires for instance - in the Scandinavian countries we require winter tires for the season, something which would make no sense in Italy for instance.
- You should read their policy
  
  I have.
  It includes "compliance with EU regulations" which in this case is soon going to involve redirecting and tracking visitors to sites such as thepiratebay.
  Fully expect this to be a move to enable them to enforce this via blocking DNS providers that don't comply with censorship lists, instead directing people to use this.
  I don't need an EU DNS, I already have OpenDNS.
  
  That guy thinks that the EU is one entity, not consisting of many member states.
  Also it sounds like he only read headlines. Otherwise he would know that the EU survelliance bill is a proposal, which any member state can make in a democracy.
  Guess the propaganda got to him if he belives more what he reads in a headline instead of what actions the EU actually makes.

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