Compare american vs japanese craftsmen-cars
Compare american vs japanese craftsmen-cars
Comparison left vs right for a craftsman who doesnt know which one he should buy:
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l/r same bed size
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r lower bed for way easier loading/unloading
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r less likely to crash
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r less fuel consumption and costs
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r less expensive to repair
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r easy to park
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r easy to get around in narrow places like crowded construction sites or towns
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r not participating in road arms race
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l You get taken serious by your fellow carbrained americans because ""trucks"" are normalized and small handy cars are ridiculed.
So unless you are a fragile piece of human, choose the right one.
I agree with the sentiment of this post, but to be fair, you can also carry 3 or 4 passengers in the left vehicle, as opposed to only one in the right.
The main problem is the US fuel economy regulations actually encourage manufacturers to build bigger trucks and SUVs so they get classified into a category that has looser fuel economy requirements.
To anyone claiming that the bigger one is the safer one ...
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24499113/
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-the-most-car-accidents
From the Bloomberg & NLM articles
From a safety perspective, kei cars have a lot going for them when compared with American-style SUVs and trucks. Their light weight generates less force in a collision, and their stubby front ends reduce driver blind spots. Research suggests that their occupants are equally safe as those inside full-sized vehicles.
Yep. I'm an American tradesman and the trucks that the guys drive are way too beefy for what they actually do.
I've gotten by with small Toyota trucks, and rav 4s..much to the chagrin of the good old boys. Should have seen their face when I rolled up in a prius...till I tell em I get 50 mpg easy.
I would love a small little truck like this one in the photo.
Kei trucks due have the issue of not being great to actual haul things in the mountainous areas (a tradeoff of the small engine). They make a non-kei version that has a bigger engine for situations like that.
That being said, I think if roads and such were bigger here (Japan), we'd definitely seem more American-style vehicles. Miyazaki (Ghibli) had lots of environmental themes in his works and it wasn't because people were doing a great job of taking care of the environment. I have seen American trucks driving around Tokyo (which is silly because they can't even fit down some streets) as well as sports cars and even hummers. Yeah, some are driven by foreigners, but there are still plenty of Japanese who import and drive US vehicles. The second biggest thing stopping that is the cost of getting it over here, inspected, registered, etc. Some humans just want those and want to show off their status and Japanese people are just people, after all (as much as the internet loves to pretend otherwise).
I get the point your trying to prove but i don’t think it’s fair to compare these 2 as they are meant for different things and also brings in the assumption that all American craftsman vehicles are 2500HD’s, which is not true.
Now I agree, people using the one on the left specifically as a daily driver is actually overkill and are not using it for what it’s supposed to be used for. The one on the left is a 2500HD. They are SUPPOSED to be used for hauling and carrying equipment. The crew cab is meant to also transport the crew that is for said equipment.
The one the right is specifically meant what appears to be lighter duty use and hauling. I agree that people should use the right tool for the job. I find the one on the right to be very practical. But for the sake of this post as a means to compare Japanese craftsman vehicles to American.
You should actually show something actually comparable. Like a ford ranger with a standard cab. Which might be about the same size and power. Maybe even the same bed size. Not something that has HD (Heavy duty) in its name.
Excited for when American trucks just become literal tanks. Seems to be the trend since everything here constantly needs to be bigger bigger bigger for suburbanites. Who needs yards when you can have bigger houses? Who needs a healthy environment when you can drive gas guzzling giants? We're so unprepared to deal with climate change it's depressing. I want to believe that our culture will eventually naturally see the value in smaller, simpler things, but the trends haven't changed yet and I don't see why they would.
As an American, I've written to multiple manufacturers, foreign and domestic, to bring/build the smaller Kei trucks but I have never heard any response except for Ford that basically sent a brochure for their F150 that has 'more space' for 'getting work done'. I would love these for practicality but the cost of importing a used one was MUCH higher than buying a normal truck/suv here. :(
Since it's become legal to import these Kei trucks and vans, I've been loving the pictures of them all over the place. I have no need to haul cargo around, but I'd definitely love one of these things if I did in the future. I just don't like that you're only allowed to buy 20-year-old vehicles like this due to import laws.
Hey! I live in Korea. These things are ubiquitous. They are colloquially called "Bongos" as that was the name of an older, popular model. There are more and more electric ones on the road these days, too.
Unfortunately, you can find a few of the monstrosities on the left here these days, too, but at least very few. They've got nowhere to park them here. Haha!
My first car was an early 90s Ranger. These were the days when you could actually buy a small pickup, not whatever the hell the Ranger is now.
Now, look, it was still horrible for the enviroment like all cars. It wasnt great on gas, but compared to larger trucks in that era, it sipped fuel by comparison. But friends asked why I didnt just go for a 'real truck'.
Simple. It was big enough for anything I needed to haul. I didnt need a huge truck. It was easy to drive and I could park it anywhere, even in the city when I visited.
Now they dont even make small trucks anymore, at least not in North America. Everything is huge even though only, like, 1% of truck owners actually need something that big. And they keep getting bigger year by year. Its insane.
One is made to show how much of an egoist you are, and the other is made to do the job. I really don't get the gigantomax trucks, and never will
But the right one doesn't have enough room for a crate of piss-weak "beer", a gun rack, or a perch for your eagle.
Even Toyota's own Tacoma line is much more modest than that monstrosity on the left side of the image. I think their business and marketing people saw the trend in America for increasingly larger pickup trucks and pushed back against it, realizing themselves that it's pointless and ridiculous to have a truck that large.
All of the Tacoma's I've driven were pretty straightforward trucks despite it having 4 seats.
I agree, the Japanese craftsmen-car on the right is far superior and the American pick-up truck on the left just looks ridiculous.
Sizes aside, whenever I bought a Toyota or if I bought a Lexus, I would make sure that they were manufactured in Japan.
US automotive regulation is beyond fuvked and mostly fuction to kill competition and increase profits for "American" car manufacturers.
b-but left makes your dick seem bigger /s
But freedoms per burger!
I agree that most craftsmen don't need the truck on the left, a few that I know need to tow a trailer with about 3,000 pounds of shingles for some roofing jobs. I'm pretty sure the one on the right might struggle with that kind of weight.
One of them I know do drive a Ranger which is somewhere between the two in size at least.
Here is the answer to your question. You can skip to the EPA graph at about 4:55, but may want to watch the whole vid if you actually care to learn about the problem. https://youtu.be/azI3nqrHEXM
The one on the right l looks like those vehicles the school janitor drove around my HS in the 90s.
i always love seeing this japanese pickup
Definitely not that small, but I would choose them over a pickup.
Buy a big one if you need to flex with your money, like iPhone f.e.
It is only justified, if you live in a district or village outside the city, because of the wild roads and family business.
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Yep. When I have to use a grappling hook and rappelling gear just to get in the truck, I'm not going to find it practical...
I know the arms race is not a good thing, but I also don't want to lose it. Just imagine a head in collision between these two.
I couldn't find anything to prove this so it's just my instincts, but if those two exact trucks smash into each other, one is going to ride right through the other.
Small truck to small truck is safe. Big truck to small truck is not just less safe for small teuck but it's not a contest.
This is a thorough and accurate assessment. If you include the "van" type vehicle, which is essentially the same as the little truck with a roof, you get the added benefit of being able to lock your goods and tools away. And then there's THIS.
American cars need to be bigger and strong BC they need to carry all the obese mongrel americans
L triple the bed size when actually comparing cubic feet.
L higher and deeper bed means over sized and long loads with a flag are legal.
L has a larger engine which means it can carry heavy loads much easier.
L Relatively silent in the cab.
L carries 3 more passengers.
L ability to hitch much larger trailers and campers.
Oh hey, it’s the cult people. Happy to see y’all finally got settled in.
When you can't even make reasonable arguments and have to blatantly lie or twist reality to fit your narrative, it's called propaganda.
The amount of completely bullshit or cherry picking of specs or facts in this post is ridiculous. This community has turned into PETA-levels of obnoxiousness where even people who might otherwise agree with some of your ideas are just turned off by the stupid tactics. Like yeah, we get it, everyone would like more green and more walkable communities, but holy fuck the amount of bullshit some of you folks will go to to fit that narrative is nauseating.
