Election Day Discussion thread [Monday April 28]

Singh just stepped down and hopefully the change will mean more potential for the NDP in the next election.
I'm Indigenous Canadian and I fully wish that we could have a country and a political environment where we could support and stand by a visible minority to represent a major political party. But I have to temper that with the knowledge that our country is not fully ready for that kind of person. As much as we would like to believe that we could become a more progressive, open and accepting culture, we are still not there and it will be a few more decades or lifetimes before that can become a reality.
It would be more possible if we actually had an election system that was more representative of our people's wishes .... Proportional Representation would make it more possible to have major political leaders and politicians who represented visible minorities.
- Wab Kinew seems to be doing well. But I don't know if MB would give him up.
  
  Yeah, he's doing great!
  
  That smile of his creeps me out.
- I would honestly love to see Wab Kinew take a run at the federal leadership.

"We denied a Liberal NDP coalition."
NDP immediately gains a seat, allowing coalition.
- It's not even a coalition.
  Coallitons are when the party with the most seats (but not a majority) doesn't form government because the other parties all work together to form government.
  When the party with the most seats (but not majority) forms government with the help of another party on non confidence votes , it's just a minority government.
  They just try to scare people with the coalition talk to try and make it seem nefarious, such as when it almost happened to Harper, but it's a legitimate part of how our government works.
  There was a point while votes were being counted tonight, we could have theoretically had a con+bq coalition government.
  Edit: and even as of right now, the cons+bq+ndp could form a coalition, but I can't imagine those 3 parties ever working together other than to trigger an election via vote of no confidence.
  
  And the BQ wouldn't form a coalition with the current CPC, they would need to get their house in order and move left a lot for that to happen.
  There was a point where the BQ could have been the only party keeping the Liberals in power though, the NDP and Greens didn't have enough seats to help them pass a vote, but I just woke up and we're back to the same situation as before the election.... Would be funny if the Liberals get 171 and the Greens also hold the balance of power.
- That was awesome.
- Yeah. The staying on as leader thing can be put down to the "close loss" speech being written ahead of time. Not sure why he didn't change that part, though.
  
  He could still get his seat, technically.

PP lost his seat, didn't he?
- he did
- He may well have, lol.
- Hopefully the joker is out.
  
  Still awake for this.
  In all seriousness, even if he loses his seat he'll get elected in another riding. They'll push a con to resign in a safe riding and PP will run there. It could happen quickly too. The question is whether the party is going to kick him out or not.

"That's not an applause line." lol

The comment about Fanjoy potentially winning! Oooh roasted!

Singh resigns as party leader.

Lmao PP’s on his way to lose his own riding
- Still not called, but a pretty wide gap.
- Imagine if he came in 91st. It'd be a heritage moment up there with balcony guy
  
  Hahahaha that’d be incredible
- Watching the CBC feed on YouTube. It says only 10 of 266 polls reported, but Fanjoy (what an apt name) is ahead by over 50%. That's pretty incredible.
  Also wtf? 91 candidates? In a country with FPTP‽
  
  It’s a joke/protest setup by the Longest Ballot Committee ironically in opposition to FPTP and definitely isn’t the norm haha

Interesting takes on CBC, but reality is that Polievre is shit. He lost this election because he is terrible, stupid, lazy and inept. He wasn’t ready for an election, he didn’t do his homework, he ran scared of the media, he is stupid (demonstrated by his understanding of electricity and bread). That he believed he could treat Canadians with such disdain and disrespect. He deserves the rest of his life as an insult stuck to the sole of my shoe.
- And now he needs to get his resume ready for the first time ever.
- he ran scared of the media
  He grew up at the knee of Harper. He's only doing what he was taught.
- Generously, Trump put him in a bind. On the one hand around a third of his supporters would be down with being the 51st state, or are at least fans of what Trump is doing. If he came out too hard against Trump, he could have bled support to the PPC,
  Ironically, electoral reform would save the Conservative Party. It would probably split back into a more PC style centre-right party and a more populist Reform style party. I think an old Joe Clark style PC leader could have done better, but with ⅓ of the modern CPC Qonvoy supporting Trumpians, I don't know that they could elect one. If they did, it would be Erin O'Toole all over again.
- I mean, he's very, very good at the firehose-of-soundbites style of campaigning. The dude has literally gotten elected for every year of his working life on it.
  
  His concession had a lot of poise and savvy. He'll never win me over but I was impressed with his cooperative tone. But I know he hasn't changed, and I know it is not in his nature to cooperate.

Go Bruce Fanjoy! Stop that demagogue!
- the article I read about him said that he left his job to raise his children fulltime while his wife worked. then goes on to say his children are well into their post-secodary degrees so he's been renovating his house and talking everyone's ear off about how great it is because of its greenness. One of the things he'd like to do as MP is help other people renovate their houses the same way he did.
  Losing to Carney, a serious member of the financial class is one thing. But losing to full time parent of 2 adults, who loves eco-friendly home renos is another thing. It's interesting that neither men has held a conventional job in 20 years. Not to mention the dynamics (esp gender) of one of them having spent the time being a homemaker and the other being a brainwrecker.
- Demagogue in a Milhouse suit who let the internet bully him out of wearing glasses. Pathetic.

The numbers for Fanjoy have been holding above 2300 for over an hour, as writing this, 219 of 266 polls.
- now only 3.5% apart at 225/266 polls. Could we skunk Mr Polyester?

PP's riding update as of approximately midnight EST:
Image Source: Globalnews
105,000 eligible voters (Source: Citizen)
43,394 people cast an early ballot (Source: CTV News)
Alternative: National Post > Just the subframe for Carleton
- This might be the most interesting thing so far, actually, with the orange-blue swing votes in second place.
  Poilievre could leave this as a freshly minted lobbyist: His first normal job.
  
  Hopefully it's in the American regime and we never see him again. Opps...was that out loud
  
  Iirc he's got a 5 yr wait before he can register as a lobbyist.
- Update about 00:35 EST
  110/266 polls reporting
  28,327 votes reporting
  Name Party votes Share
  
  Bruce Fanjoy LIB 14,529 51.3%
  Pierre Poilievre* CON 12,817 45.2%
  (source Globalnews)
  
  Update about 01:05 EST
  180/266 polls reporting
  43,999 votes reporting
  PP pulls up 0.5%
  Name Party votes Share
  
  Bruce Fanjoy LIB 24,248 51%
  Pierre Poilievre* CON 21,688 45.6%
  Beth Prokaska NDP 709 1.5%
  (source Globalnews)
  Comment: Thy have counted 6709 votes in the past 30 minutes or so. This is the riding with 1 meter long ballots. What the fuck.

Name	Party	votes	Share
Bruce Fanjoy	LIB	`14,529`	`51.3%`
Pierre Poilievre*	CON	`12,817`	`45.2%`

Name	Party	votes	Share
Bruce Fanjoy	LIB	`24,248`	`51%`
Pierre Poilievre*	CON	`21,688`	`45.6%`
Beth Prokaska	NDP	`709`	`1.5%`

"He's earned his right to stay as leader."
Dude it's not even guaranteed that he's keeping his seat.
- Justin Trudeau glances at Pierre Poilievre and asks “First time?”

NDP needs to drop Singh. Conservatives need to drop PP.
- Singh just announced he is stepping down as party leader.
  I dont believe the hype. I think he'd have been great.
  
  I don't dislike Singh but I don't think he was a good leader.
  I don't think he saw his own failures coming, but I've been saying for a while this would happen.
  I don't think he did a good enough job getting the message out to the working class, and that needs to be the NDP foundation. Unless it's a worker party, what actually separates it from the greens?
  I actually do like most of their platform, and the platform is bold. I Also like that he did push for dental and pharma, but as released those programs are a huge frustration to me.
- Seeing as they voth lost there seat pretty sure that choice has been made for them
  
  Yup. Here's hoping the selection process goes slow so the Cons can't cause trouble for a bit.
- I don't think he'll want to continue after this tbh
  
  Just stepped down.

Well, I did it. I feel dirty, but I voted liberal. Not that it matters here. First time ever voting liberal, but the cons platform is just so damn terrible. And my usual ndp vote for the past couple times doesn't even have a hope.
- I held my nose and did it too. I am the leftiest lefty that ever lefted but the NDP was not really an option this time.
- I feel the same, haha
- A noble sacrifice.
- It's looking like people like you made the difference, based on the vibe of the early results. It's close.
  Edit: It's pulling apart as things go on.

I may as well get to bed, but I wish I would know before if the NDP will have enough seats to prop up an LPC minority. I'd hate to see the LPC+NDP be one or two seats short, leaving the CPC/BQ with enough votes to stymie everything. Right now it's sitting at 170 combined, need 172 or more to make it work.
- Why the assumption that BQ can't be worked with?
  
  Because every election people from outside Quebec talk about the BQ as if it was a right wing party that would rather work with the cons when all it does is vote based on Quebec's interests. The BQ will keep the Liberals in power as long as the Liberals play ball and don't try to centralize things that aren't under federal jurisdiction.
  That last bit might be what leads to the misunderstanding, the cons tend to respect the division of powers more than the Liberals, but I'm pretty sure that PP would have been different on that front anyway.
- LPC+NDP could be 171 and be ok on current numbers, with the 1 GRN projected reaching a majority without needing BQ. Still...they're 1 short of that.
  
  You assume Carney would prefer working with the NDP over the BQ? I wouldn't be surprised if he preferred the BQ if only to strike a congenial tone and try to garner more support there so next time his majority is not in doubt
  
  We've still got those advance polls keeping things in flux, though. A Liberal majority hasn't even been ruled out.
  
  1 short may as well be 2 short, because the house will elect a liberal speaker and reduce the vote number one more. But, whatever will happen is set in stone, waiting to be counted. I don't know why I engage with this as if its a story unfolding, like I can influence it by watching.

This liberal guy on CBC is super fucking annoying. He doesn't need to be campaigning on the results show. JFC
- Yeah way too eager, super annoying. The woman beside him is visibly annoyed with him it's pretty entertaining
- Yeah the blatant campaigning is unnecessary and leaves a bad taste in my mouth
  
  Please don't put your phone in your mouth, even during election night.

I appreciate Jason Kenney calling out maga North and The People’s Party.
- Though I'm pretty sure that MAGA north pivoted to the CPC the same way the NDP broke for the Liberals.

Maxime Bernier lost his seat. Yves- François Blanchet BQ has kept his seat but the BQ is poised to lose 12 seats.
- What did the BQ do loose so much favor? As usual I am out of touch with Qc goings-on.
  
  Independence is not a priority with the current geopolitical situation. Plus a lot of people want to make sure PP doesn't get in.
  
  Anti-Conservative sentiment in Quebec. The Bloc is never going to hold a majority, so strategically at this time the Liberals were the obvious choice to keep the Conservatives out of power. Among other things.
  
  10:41 p.m. EDT: Blanchet holds seat as party suffers losses
  Blanchet caused some upset days before the election calling Canada an “artificially country with very little meaning,” then doubled down in the face of denunciation by his political rivals.
  The Bloc lost ground to Mark Carney’s Liberals early in the election campaign – as many voters rallied around the incumbent government in the face of U.S. President Donald Trump’s tariffs threat – and Blanchet struggled to win back that support.
  https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/ctv-news-declares-liberal-minority-live-updates-here/

Canadians, what's the deal with "official party status"? I gather from the CBC that you need 12 seats to achieve it, but what does it actually do, what's the reasoning behind it, and do people generally like this system?
For context, here in Australia party status is decided pre-election, and only requires you have 1500 active members, or at least 1 incumbent. To my knowledge the only thing it gives you here is more flexibility with respect to campaign financing.
- It's time allotment in the HoC and money for staff, research, etc. Not much more.
  
  Just having that presence and national media time could vault a proper leader and party forward with the savings from staffing and offices near but not on the hill and could be very beneficial for the right small party. Getting there is the hard part. Grasping it and making it work, hasn't happened yet.
- Honestly, I hadn't even heard much about it until this election, and I've been pretty heavily involved in electoral politics. To actually register a party it's just a fee and a few hundred signatures, and the requirement to get a candidate on the ballot is similar.
  Even the Green party has sat in the house with their one MP. I'm guessing the official status is more of a symbolic goal, even if it comes with goodies.
  
  Not having official party status doesn't mean an elected MP can't sit in the HoC. It means they can't ask questions, sit on any committees and they receive minimal funding.
  
  Registering a party to run in an election is different than obtaining official party status. It's also not a new topic during elections.

What a terrible song.
- What, you don't like country-gospel with awkwardly rammed in mood board words?

Well, let's find out if we delay fascism for 4 years or not.
- We best start fighting back regardless of how it turns out.
  
  Oh yeah, to be clear if the libs win delay is absolutely the key word here. They won't do shit to fight fascism so it's up to the few that give a fuck to do it.

This Liberal woman CBC has just finished talking to both looks and speaks an awful lot like Leslie Knope from Parks & Rec.
(This is not a bad thing.)
- Binge watching Parks and Rec currently hehe

Can't believe the CBC Live news coverage .... just a moment ago, they asked Conservative Jason Kenny what his thoughts were on resource development in regards to First Nations
What the hell do you think he's going to say
It's like asking a Irishman what his thoughts are of potatoes
- Can’t believe the CBC Live news coverage … just a moment ago, they asked Conservative Jason Kenny what his thoughts were on resource development in regards to First Nations
  What the hell do you think he’s going to say
  It’s like asking a Irishman what his thoughts are of potatoes
  Way to fight racism with racism. Do better.

Interactive live results pages are clearly losing this election.

After this is all done, we need to rebuild the left in this country. We need the NDP to be putting forth bold policy proposals to neutralize the far right populist appeal of the fucking conservative ghouls.
- That and we need electoral reform. The NDP bled hard into liberal support as people wanted to avoid electing conservatives. FPTP will never lead to an NDP government.
- We also need a better NDP leader. I like Jagmeet but he has not succeeded at this.
  
  Charlie Angus should have stayed and taken over NDP leadership.
  
  We also need a better NDP leader. I like Jagmeet but he has not succeeded at this.
  He's in third place in his riding and it's looking like he'll lose his seat.
- And to engage peoples hard, negative feelings. The conservatives keep capturing the NDP's natural base because they refuse to actually reflect their feelings and perceptions back to them. This whole "let's get along, and cancel your bank fees" thing doesn't resonate.
  
  We need European style left populism, like Mélenchon in France, or Corbyn in the UK. The mainstream media are going to call us hippie socialists no matter how "costed" and "responsible" our platform is. We need to be going for the jugular.
- They need to replace Singh from the leadership .... I have a lot of respect for him and I do appreciate him but you have to be realistic, the majority of the country is still very conservative Eurocentric minded population. The majority of the country do not identify with a politician with a turban. I have no problem with it but there are still many, many people out there that will never support someone like this. Singh also brings in the controversy and troubles of the Sikh / Indian controversies.
  I hate to say it and hate to admit it but the only way that the NDP can grow is for the leadership to be replaced by someone who is white but at the very least someone who does not identify with a specific ethnic / religious group by wearing a piece of clothing to identify themselves.
  I am a lifelong NDP supporter ... I voted for them in my riding here in northern Ontario. But I do know from personal experience and from talking to people in my area that the greatest stumbling block for them voting NDP is that they just can't identify with a leader who represents a very small ethnic minority in the country.
  
  Singh wasn't going to be able to overcome the polarization that Trump created. IN any normal election, he's fine. But nobody wanted to chance a Polievre administration maple magaing our way through the next 3.7 years.
  
  No, just no. Singh is as Canadian as the rest of us, period. And for any racialized Canadians reading this, that goes for you too as far as I and millions of other Canadians are concerned. We don't need to court the votes of racists and we should never feel like we ought to appease them; they either get educated or they spend the rest of their lives voting for regressives. The leadership of our diverse country ought to be reflected in our leaders and the days of trying to middle ground with regressives ought to be put firmly behind us.
  
  The majority of the country do not identify with a politician with a turban.
  The majority of the country identify with a very narrow profile, and it excludes many marginalized groups that we both know need no more exclusion. So I am super-conflicted with the reasoning being "he's not like most Canadians" being a reason to replace him, but I see where it absolutely will/has affected his image with the more rural regions.
  We had a period of turmoil during Justin's last run that had Mr Singh appearing narrowly-focused on a particular segment of the population, and it was hard not to believe that it was to the detriment of the rest of the country. I worry he will appear to put one group before the rest, and we really need to believe all groups are on an equal footing before he can hope for support from the Rurals.
- we need to rebuild the left
  Well, memberships are cheap and it's easy to get involved at the riding level where you can vote for the local leadership at the AGM, help make policy at conventions, vote for the leader,... Membership has its privileges.

The federal portion anyway.

Complete interprovincial trade by July?

Is the guy in the blue suit reading a book behind that sign or something?
- Yep, reading something on his phone.

Are the early polling votes from last week not counted already? Because they've called the election for liberals already but the total vote count is less than the 7.6 million that voted early...?
- CBC said it's riding by riding the order they count the ballots.
  
  Yup. At least one riding started counting the early votes 6 hours before the polls closed. Usually it's about an hour before.
- Are the early polling votes from last week not counted already
  In one province they were allowed to start counting those 6 hours before polls closed. In all others, they could start 2 hours before, but it is optional and up to each riding's returning officer. So some ridings have it, some don't. CBC made it sound like they don't even know which ones have and which have not.

Well, the Greens were able to keep a seat, so there's that.
- Could change, but as of right now, they're not leading anywhere.
- Where are you seeing that?
  
  I saw it momentarily on the map but it disappeared. FWIW Mike Morrice in Kitchener Centre has a very good shot at keeping his seat. Very few polls reporting there at this time

I just have no patience to listen to "what if" the whole night.

11:50 p.m. EDT: Elections Canada confirms website issues not security-related
In an updated email statement to CTV News, Elections Canada confirmed the website’s technical issues were not security related.
Issues accessing the website began at 7 p.m. EDT, according to the organization.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/article/ctv-news-declares-liberal-minority-live-updates-here/

Hopefully we get a minority liberal government tonight. Mark Carney needs to taught to collaborate with others. I want him to be much more mature than Justin Trudeau ever was.
- My only problem with this plan is it seems they'd need both NDP and BQ. If they only needed NDP, should be business as ususal. If they need BQ.. could be hairier.
  
  Looks like Mark Carney has a great opportunity to be molded into a great leader!
  
  There's also a chance the Greens could be a kingmaker here if that's preferable to a potential bloc rugpull.

CBC reporting that some people are finding that the elections Canada website is not working.
If you find the Election Canada Website is down for you try checking here
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/federal/2025/results/
- Thank you, I've added that link to the top of the post

Well...
- Well. Liberal government.
  A majority is still in play, too, which from the Atlantic results is surprising.
  
  Trudeau wins a fourth election.

Elections Canada website down during peak voting time? Yikes.
- Elections Canada website down during peak voting time? Yikes.
  I respect the people at Elections Canada, but not their funding. I'm glad we do not use voting machines but instead still count votes by hand with people watching like a hawk.
  
  While i agree, i get the ick from Alberta being soooo blue it’s like Canada’s biggest bruise. I often wonder if cons have goons planted 🤷
- Most likely a DDoS. 338Canada got DDoSed over the last 24 hours.
  
  Russia playing games again?

I wonder if the election will be over as soon as the polls close in Ontario.
- Kind looks like we'll need to wait all night based on the initial results coming out of the alantic.
  
  The powers that be decided this election is paper ballots only, so no counting machines to make it go faster.
  I mean I get it, but the results will take longer than normal.
- Quebec and Ontario
  An often noted oddity of the Canadian population is to draw a horizontal line at Windsor Ontario and a vertical line at Huntsville Ontario .... everything south and east of that line is 90% of the Canadian population.
- I recall in 2015 that when Atlantic Canada went solid red that was enough to show that the Liberals won entirely and the rest was just waiting the night out.

Going to keep myself in the dark until tomorrow morning. Good luck Canada's democracy!
- I envy your willpower. My anxiety wouldn't let me sleep tonight without at least checking how things are going.

This is not looking good so far. 🥲
- It's close, but remember the Conservatives would probably have to win an absolute majority, because nobody else wants to work with them.
  If the east coast is representative, they get the most seats but fall short of that.
- It looks fine

I have mixed emotions today. I grieved for a few days after tRump was elected in 2024, processing the state and direction of the US. I've never had such a powerful reaction to election results before. I'm guarding myself for the possibility that PP forms a minority government. Improbable but possible. I would hurt and be worried, like I was after tRump last fall.
I voted in the advance polls over Easter weekend, when 7.2 million Canadians turned out iirc. I felt a greater than usual sense of civic duty amongst voters in the voting station - like people felt it especially important to have their voice heard in this election.
Voting typically inspires some pride in me about this country we are fortunate to call home. And although I've nervously been checking CBC News today for issues at polling stations, I also take pride in our voting process. The shit that goes on in the States in and around voting stations is obscene and very undemocratic. Thankfully I've read about no voting-related issues so far. (Our thoughts though are with the Filipino community and everyone affected by the tragedy in BC.)
Ideally, I'd like to have a Liberal minority with an NDP coalition. Second best would be a Liberal majority. I think that's the most likely outcome. For ABC reasons (especially now that C is MAGA-lite), I'd accept it.
tRump's comments today - presumably undermining PP's votes more than anything - surprised me. As did some comments DoFo made about PP and Carney over the weekend. It made me realize that the Conservative party leaders (Marlaina, schMoe, DoFo, PP) in this country have quite different relationships with the other adjacent political forces (i.e., Carney and tRump).
I'm looking forward to election coverage tonight! And I hope to breathe a sigh of relief soon. Don't @#$% this one up, Canada!

First result has come in!
- God bless Labrador.

I had 3 people in front of me at my polling booth, got out in 10 minutes. I think that is the longest its taken me to vote in years. I always go first thing in the morning, lol. Hate lineups.
- Longest wait I encountered was for the guy sitting by the door to look up from his phone. Registered and voted in moments, no lines.

There was a long line out the door of the polling place, but they were all new registrations.
No line at my poll, so I was out in the rain again in about two minutes.
- all new registrations
  Wow. That makes me happy.
- Hmmm that does not sound amazing. Maybe there was a lot of movement in and out of the riding …. Weird.

CANADA DOESNT NEED A SMALL _pp
- CANADA DOESN'T HAVE A SMALL _pp

Just in case anyone is using 338 for info:
the higher voter turnout so far indicates this type of model will be less accurate this election.
the riding numbers are from provincial polling, there is no per riding polling incorporated. With increased turnout, I expect these to be less accurate.
the model works by rating pollsters based on how well the predict past elections. That’s why increased turnout means things may swing from their forecast.
All that adds up to the potential for huge swings in votes, swings that can go either direction.
Things to watch for:
Gen Z men’s rightward swing. Expect high turnout from this group for the Conservatives. They consume a lot of right wing media and have been struggling with tough economic conditions, so will be motivated.
Boomer influence is waning — this is the first election they are not the largest demographic.
Gen X are actually wealthier than boomers and are the only demographic that en masse had better economic outlooks since COVID. I don’t know if they’re going to stay the coarse with LPC or vote CPC for the tax cuts, traditionally more income swings right, especially with how Pollievre wants to change housing taxes
Older women and Quebec are very anti-Pollievre, this might end up with a suppressed vote or a very strong vote LPC.
Rural areas I think will swing more conservative than ever, and this might be where the forecasts swing. E.g. rural Ontario may not be as safe as thought.
TLDR be prepared for surprises today.
- I'm gen-x, my kids are Z. We all voted ABC.
  
  Yep. BC. Habitual NDP voter, first time liberal voter.
- The problem with the Conservative vote is it's very concentrated in provinces with less seats. Winning AB/SK/MB won't matter if you lose enough seats in BC/ON/PQ, mostly ON.
  
  I think they might pick up seats in areas like Ontario and Manitoba, even areas like Hamilton.
  That’s my concern anyway.

How can CBC declare Liberal government when it's this currently?
- Incumbent government gets first chance to form government, so they can form a coalition with bloc. It doesn't actually matter at this point as long as that coalition can be formed. Which it will. Bloc has said they won't form a government with the cons
  
  Oh OK, that makes more sense now. Thanks!
- It could be a minority and they’re ahead.
  
  Yeah, just seems a little too close for comfort.
  Anyway, PP's trailing by over 1K votes right now!! 😂😂😂
- A snapshot of the summary isn't the full picture.

Lurking American here. Curious who you think will win in your gut? I understand we won't really know until results are counted. A couple of stories covered by American media (one definitely liberal leaning) I've read and listened to seems to think because of the odiousness of our president, liberals may take it? Do you think that's likely?
- Curious who you think will win in your gut?
  I'm feeling it's Carney but I don't feel confident at all. Might be wishful thinking. Polling hasn't been reliable enough for me to be at peace.
  to think because of the odiousness of our president, liberals may take it? Do you think that’s likely?
  Trump being disgusting seems to have nudged some in favor of Liberals, but it's also not the major reason imho. The Liberal strategy of getting rid of Trudeau and the consumer carbon pricing worked, because Conservatives spent the last 5 years yammering non-stop about these two things as their promise. Conservatives were literally calling it a "carbon tax election". Scrambling to find a new platform, Conservatives started to pivot into generic bullshit like "Canada First", and that's where they ended up likening themselves to Trump even more.
  Pretty much the only thing Conservatives have going for them now is chanting that Liberals have been in power for too long and "we need change". But their platform without ax-the-tax and fuck-trudeau was reduced to the same basic shit as ever: tough on crime, cheap gas, and transphobia.
  
  Congrats! Looks like CBC is projecting a liberal win!
- If enough people saw Trump's rant this morning, Carney and Libs get a majority. If they didn't, it could be tight.
- Carney. Liberal Majority.
- Honestly hard to tell, but I'd say a conservative minority is the most likely outcome.
  My riding has voted NDP every time for as long as it has existed, but I expect it to flip conservative because the liberals will split the vote enough thanks to Carney's "popularity" despite their candidate here having zero chance (seriously, PPC got more votes than the liberals did last election).

The NDP had 9 years to press the promise of PR and did nothing. Fuck em. I hope they lose party status.
- It was a mistake (in obvious retrospect) to not settle for RCV. Singh made his weekend speech, "vote strategically to not split for CPC win", which never has to be said under RCV. You can instead double down on why you should be first or 2nd choice, and voter only needs to agree to help you/party. You don't get strategic voting instructions from mainstream media. You have to rely on actively searched for leaked polling data that may or may not be true.
  
  That's what I meant in long form. If they would have held the Libs to account, they could have got it. Instead they backed themselves into a corner and us into a two-party system. Fuck them in the 🐐 🍑 but this is what they get for not being the NDP Canadians needed.
  Did they accomplish something? Sure, but not what we most need to avoid the pitfalls of a two-party ticket in the future. And the future is here.
- PR is a non-starter for the liberals, their party would completely disappear if they passed it. That's why they sabotaged/killed it even though they promised last time.
  The NDP couldn't push it through even if they wanted, all it would have done is forced an election into the Conservatives.
  
  This. PR is a death knell for the bigger parties and they'll fight it. Maybe. Mayyyybe that can be pushed for RCV. But I think Mr Singh didn't have the poker hand for that and needed to play for dental framework instead. Continuing on that would have been great, but he overplayed his hand as it was and set Justin on the election course.
  This time, if Mark wins the big bag and runs majority, we'll see lots of minor improvements but nothing glamorous: his people will keep any big gains in the war chest and/or spent immediately on an independent euro-connected peacekeeper force.
  We're gonna see real estate shenanigans, though, same as cons, with bungalow boondoggles and sprawl for quick cheap housing to satisfy the numbers, and it'll be a long time before we can claw ourselves farther away from the same Muni economic brink that Detroit fell over with its unsustainable bungalow sprawl. But keep in mind almost no one has a good plan to get good, dense, walkable mixed-use tower housing linked to trains because that's a project with excellent returns at a pace too slow for the protestors. If Mark does anything foundational for that it'll be noise amid the effort to placate the short-thinkers and stay in power for a better term next time.
  We're gonna see a lot of younger voters looking for the whizbang change the cons offer, not understanding the whole story, the motivations, and the history of every other time we got onboard there. Harper.
  But if we can get steady gains, if we can improve ancillary healthcare coverage like the last term, if we can start the ground work for RCV which is more appealing to the incumbent giants, then we could see that in 5 years as a hard promise.
  In those 5 years we need to teach kids what "the whole truth" looked like under Mr Harper and see whether they like the side of the box with the nutrient value - mmm, riboflavin - as much as the front of the box with the splashy graphics the offer of the free prize inside.
  
  I'm not sold on PP/PR, and I understand RCV to help liberals more, but I disagree that LPC would do poorly under PP.

When my special ballot hadn't shown up the local election office said that there is still a process to vote in person, you have to sign a statement saying you have not voted yet. It showed up the next day but according to them there is a process but they don't mention it unless it's really needed. It was last Thursday so I was a bit worried I wouldn't be able to vote at all.

And, if you truly don't know for who to vote: cancel your vote. Go and check every single boxes of your ballot!
There's no reason why you shouldn't go and vote, even if you want to vote for no one!
- I’ve worked elections before (but currently not working this one), it’s amazing how few spoiled ballots there were.
- Everyone I've known who has done has always been an incredibly low information voter. It isn't that hard to make a choice. Expecting to have a federal party that matches 100 percent of your beliefs is not realistic and presenting it as an option is just used to suppress votes.
  
  It would be easier if we had ranked choice voting. My mom wants to vote green but she feels like her vote is worthless (I'm not sure how the cons are her 2nd choice given her environmental concerns but i guess no one is immune to propaganda).

Just got this beautiful flyer hand delivered by the CPC to help me vote against the CPC:

Did someone take down 338canada.com or did we crash it?
E: Nope, it's an attack. Apparently the French version works.
- It's been down for me on and off since yesterday
  
  Nope, it's an attack
- It's working for me.

Here's the two main poll aggregator's per-riding projections for all of those considering voting strategically:
338Canada. Use the French version if the main one is down. The site is under attack
Eric Grenier (CBC Poll Tracker)
- No pollster will be able to predict a ridding, there is just not enough information collected per ridding.
  
  True. That's why I'm looking at aggregators, as well as pollsters. Just in case the one I look at is way off for some reason.

Bringing your voter information card with a driver's license or any other Canadian Gov't issued card with photo, name and address is like having a FastPass for voting.

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