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Trump Orders US Military to Plan Invasion of Panama to Seize Canal: Report.

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U.S. officials familiar with the planning said options for "reclaiming" the vital waterway include close cooperation with Panama's military and, absent that, possible war.

U.S. officials familiar with the planning said options for "reclaiming" the vital waterway include close cooperation with Panama's military and, absent that, possible war.

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But why??
- He wants to be a strongman and he realizes peoples' impression of him is nearly as small as his penis.
  
  How optimistic of you thinking he has a dick. He’s a clean cut choir boy. Aaaaaameeeeen.
  
  He is not mushroom shaped though.
- Papa Putin says so.
- Because you can’t really invade a place full of white people like Greenland or Canada. Even the diehard Trump fans would probably not be okay with that. On the other hand, a country full of poor, brown people that have only ever been fucked over by America? Well shit, we can’t wait to bomb them! George Carlin explained it, America loves bombing brown people. Anyone in the US military with the slightest amount of backbone will not follow these illegal orders. See the Nuremberg Trials if you’re not sure what an illegal order looks like. They aren’t even trying with a WMD hoax, this is just an illegal invasion.
  
  Even the diehard Trump fans would probably not be okay
  Given the number of diehard trump fans who wish harm to other members of the US and agitate for an internal war, I doubt this is true for the majority of them.
  
  You may be right. When logic and reason are your enemy, no one will be able to guess your next move (apparently kicking self in nuts repeatedly).
  
  Join us tomorrow for the next exciting episode of, "Ow, My Balls!!!"
  
  Give Fox News 6 months of their two minutes hate bullshit and Trumpers will be frothing at the mouth for Canadian blood. Americans have already proven that we'll follow a blatant liar into war if the propaganda sets the tone for it.
  
  This is sadly true.
  
  And then in 10 years everyone gets to pretend that they were 'against it the whole time' like they did with the Iraq War.
  
  Ain’t that the sorry truth? On one hand, I hope you’re right and that we have an after soon where we can enjoy forgetting haha
  But — I remember protesting the Iraq war and I told my parent that this war didn’t make sense at all and I couldn’t stand for it. My parent was appalled. They literally cried and said that they were sorry to have a traitor for a child. Haha they hate the Iraq war now! Amazing!
  Remember when Michael Moore got booed at his acceptance speech for some Hollywood award because he had the audacity to be like—yo this Iraq war shit is wrong and does not look like it’s based on anything? And even Hollywood BOOED him. Yanked him off stage!
  Remember the little American car flags. On everyone’s stupid car windows?
  You had to vocally support the troops if you were in public too. People who had become devoted to the Bush admin forced this in every conversation with strangers angling for a fight.
  And we found out the Weapons of Mass Destruction were not real. They weren’t real. The have New York Times journalists that testified to admitted falsifying articles for the Bush Admin.
  Looking back the atmosphere Then was a primer for Now.
  The whole world stood with America and it was for a lie. When I was in Italy after 9/11, an entire restaurant stopped service because we were American and the restaurant expressed that they were with us and they felt deep grief for our country. Europe cried with us. Only to be betrayed 25 years later.
  How do people who lived through these times forget these aggravating and tender moments? They don’t seem to remember and connect the dots.
  I can only assume those who don’t make choices on principles stand for nothing. They base all their current attitudes on social hierarchy and nothing else. Mein Herz ist krank.
  
  We saw the same fervour in the UK with the Brexit vote. Family members and people I personally know, who were vociferously in favour at the time, claim now to have always believed it a bad idea.
  There's the idiom that goes something like "those who stand for nothing will believe in anything." It always amazes me when people fall for obvious nonsense. Especially otherwise intelligent and thoughtful people.
  
  Maybe, but relationships between the American and Canadian military are way too entrenched, even if it was a direct order, it’s pretty hard to suddenly point your weapons at someone who’s been a dedicated ally. Though I won’t blame Canadians for being more than a little pissed for quite some time, I just don’t see how this would actually happen.
  
  I entirely agree we shouldn't do it, but I don't believe it would necessarily be an illegal order to follow.
  Invading a sovereign country for overtly offensive reasons isn't against any particular military law, it's just shitty.
  The president doesn't have the power to declare war, only to do everything involved in a war, but I don't think that would actually make any of the orders illegal, unless they were to explicitly do some war crimes or some such.
  
  I get what you’re saying, though maybe when America becomes the new nazis, we can have a Nuremberg Trial 2.0 and set some new precedents!
  
  I have my doubts that any nation is going to accept the precedent that other nations can have authority over their use of military force.
  That also sets a difficult precedent, both for soldiers and the court. If following an order to participate in an invasion of another country, while only engaging with valid military targets according to the rules of war, is a war crime if the international community later decides it wasn't justified then soldiers will become war criminals not because of their actions being brutal or unethical, but because they were insufficiently aware of the global opinion of a war.
  Second, it potentially puts the court in a position where they suddenly need to imprison literally hundreds of thousands of soldiers, to say nothing of arresting and trying them. This could easily make the court appear toothless when they fail to have the power to arrest the US army, nor to actually have a place to put them.
  
  "What?! There's brown people there? BOMB THEM!!1!"
- Putin knows that one of the quickest ways to destroy the US is if the rest of western civilization abandons it. Russia saw firsthand how quickly nearly the entire world joined in to sanction and abandon them when they invaded Ukraine with that bullshit story. The Panama shit is an even worse excuse, almost guaranteed to turn the western world fully against the US.
  However, it's also physically separated enough from the US that Americans at home that don't pay attention won't be directly affected to turn against it with retaliation, the Republican base is racist and narcissistic enough to back it seriously, and with a large enough power imbalance so unlike Ukraine there's no chance of a prolonged conflict.
  The infrastructure isn't in place yet for them to just do whatever they want and arrest every protester like Russia does, so they do have to still take that into account, Panama is remote and unknown to a large portion of the population sadly. But the building of Panama Canal is something that many learned about in school as a pivotal historical infrastructure project. Something still in use today and referenced in the news even though they may not know where it is. For the America is Best narcissist, taking back what "we" built is an admirable goal.
- My theory:
  Panama controls a major trade route and charges shitloads of money for each ship that passes.
  Same reason for Canada. The North-West Passage is melting and will be open year round in the not too distant future.
  The same makes sense for Greenland if you consider Russia as a trade partner with lots of raw metals. Plus Greenland itself may have oil. Again, this when the ice melts completely.
- The lake that feeds it is not recharging fast enough so they’re limiting passage of ships and making them take longer and more dangerous routes. So he’s probably planning to commit ecocide on the lake for the handful of years it can sustain the canal at max capacity but long enough to stymie other routes being planned or built.
- Penile dysmorphic disorder

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