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Elon Musk blames 'IP addresses in Ukraine' after X hit by cyber attack

news.sky.com Elon Musk blames 'IP addresses in Ukraine' after X hit by cyber attack

More than 40,000 users reported they could not access X on Monday, according to data from tracking website Downdetector.com.

In a now-deleted post on Telegram, a hacking group called Dark Storm Team claimed responsibility for the attack.

Do you think it really was a group in Ukraine, or do you reckon that's bullshit?

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Elon Musk blames 'IP addresses in Ukraine' after X hit by cyber attack

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Elon Musk says X hit by 'massive cyber attack' as users unable to log in

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I'd say he is making up a reason to turn off Starlink for Ukraine.
- Poland was paying for it and they openly said Musk actions mean they need to find a replacement
  He's going to "shut it off" when they cancel the contract.
  Full on:
  You can't fire me, I quit!
- I agree. The thing is also that Ukraine has absolutely no motive to carry out a DDOS of Twitter.
  What would the positive outcome even be? Piss off the leader of the country that your asking for money/weapons?
- Deorbit or seize the whole thing.
- 💯

Anonymous already claimed responsibility and I doubt they'd use multiple addresses from Ukraine, if any, honestly. He's blaming them to further convince right-wingers that Ukraine=bad.
- And to back this up they registered a domain for their "Operation Dreadnaught" on Feb 2. So it does show some premeditation instead of opportunistic attribution.
- these people aren't right wingers anymore. they arent conservative.
  its fascists, collaborators, and traitors, who've convinced people they are conservatives.
  
  Conservative means to keep the status quo. We have only had a few years without defacto apartheid in this country and that is the status quo that they are trying to go back to. These people are absolutely right wing conservatives and please don’t let them fool you into thinking that there is a difference.

Hello I’m a Ukrainian hacker capable of brining down Twitter, but don’t have a clue how to use a VPN to obscure my originating IP address.

The first "D" in "DDOS" stands for "distributed", i.e. it's coming from many places at once. Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.
- He's a propagandist piece of hairy shit
  
  Actually not that hairy, you see the shirtless pic? He’s quite smooth, like a beluga whale.
- This. And distribution is not even an option: such servers block IP addresses that send suspicious amounts of data anyways so the DDoS request must be distributed.
- Elon is either an idiot or a liar. Or both.
  Fairly certain that there is enough evidence to support that he is both.
- Distributed just means "multiple sources" not "multiple countries".
  
  Correct - but having seen them in action, well planned ones are executed from multiple countries at once so they can't just be geoip blocked.
  My money is on Elon not understanding how it works, lying, or both. Much more history of that happening than the other.

The more I read about him the more I think he has no clue about tech.
- If you've ever heard him speak about your field of expertise then you'll know that he is 100% full of shit and bluffs his way through conversations.
- Yay, and another one, welcome!
  Musk doesn't have a clue about anything technology. He claims to be worlds best engineer, but if you listen to him actually talk engineering since over a decade ago, it's all vapid stupidity after stupidity

I wouldn't believe a word out of this known liars mouth without evidence. It makes little sense for Ukraine to bite the hand that feeds them, so to say. It could very easily be Russia trying to frame them. Evidence is necessary!
- How would one find evidence if the user utilized a VPN?
  
  You don't DDOS through a VPN. The first D is for distributed, you do it from a multitude of devices, often hacked ones from a botnet. So DDOS attribution is hard. And if you want some scale you reflect the attack on some other machine that runs a service that allow for amplification, making attribution even harder.

Using basically any VPN that allows server selection or tor would allow anyone to look like their IP was from Ukraine.
Hi guys, I'm from Ukraine!
- Article says it’s a DoS but probably means DDoS because nobody does just a vanilla DoS anymore (they’re easy to block). No VPN is going to let you use their service to do a DDoS, setting aside the technical and logistical problems for attempting it, it doesn’t really do anything useful for a DDoS.
  DDoS attacks aren’t possible to IP trace, they come from a wide range of compromised devices forming a bot net that runs on IP blocks spanning multiple different areas all over the world, making them impossible to distinguish from legitimate traffic. The only way to catch who is responsible for a DDoS is to find the botnet’s control surface (usually something like an IRC channel) and gain access to it yourself. Not likely unless you find the malware that created the bot net and pull it apart looking for a reference to the control system.
  TL;DR: Elon musk is full of shit there’s no fucking way he knows where this attack originated from based on IP addresses because it probably didn’t use one easily blockable and identifiable IP range.
- That’s exactly what someone who was from Ukraine trying to look like they were from Ukraine would say.
  /s
- I see no reason to doubt your claim. Slava Ukraini! yak spravy, i yakyy tviy ulyublenyy dynozavr?
  (On a related note, are there any translation services that are as good as that of Google?)
  
  https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/translation/
  Better still: https://www.startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl?query=https%3A%2F%2Fduckduckgo.com%2Fduckduckgo-help-pages%2Fresults%2Ftranslation%2F And use their anonymous proxy to anonymize their proxy to msft even further!

He's such a fucking idiot. Has he absolutely no idea how these attacks work? They are routed around the world many times before the final attack vector.
Jesus Christ, he's such a fucking fraud.

Nevermind the group who took credit, he's trying to drum up excuses to shut off Starlink in Ukraine.

Wouldn’t it make sense if it was a Russian group posing as being in Ukraine, to further divide the US and Russia? I mean the Russian ministry of truth is already hammering hard at that bond. How stupid can one be not to see that?
- It would make more sense than that Ukrainians did it.
  
  Nah. Russia has been running circles around America in the information war. In Clarissa ward’s on all fronts, she talks about investigating Russian troll farms in Uganda that specifically targeted African Americans and stoked things like the BLM movement, etc. there is a reason why America is so divided. It’s why Europeans have started shutting off these things during elections, etc
- Except Russia uses X as a tool for disinfo, why would they attack "their own" infrastructure?
  
  It's just a DDOS attack, it's not like there's lasting damage. It makes even less sense for Ukraine to attack Twitter than it does for Russia. This is all too fishy and real evidence needs to be brought forth. Musk is a pathological liar with an axe to grind. His words are worth less than shit.
  
  To play the victim card. When no real harm was done.
  
  Russia is the reigning champion of false flags.
  Their war against Finland, was premeditated on a false flag. They shelled their own town and claimed the finns did it Same against Poland. Although in that case I believe it was more of an opportunity to take advantage of the Nazis false flag in the Radio Tower incident that they used for their own casus belli
  Putins rise to power revolved around a false flag, he had the FSB bomb an apartment complex and kill a score of people, only to blame Chechens after the first Chechen war, to use as a rally round the flag power grab and justify the second Chechen war. The Russians LOVED him for murdering the fuck out of Chechens.
  And it was all a distant memory now, but the Ukraine invasion was started by a series of pathetic false flags. including but not limited to
  an "assassination attempt" on a Separatist leader in Donetsk by blowing up a 40 year old low end "limousine'. (it was a regular car)
  taking captured or knockoff ukrainian uniforms, and hastily spraypainting ukrainian camo patterns on their own vehicles since both sides used the same equipment back then, and making a fake go-pro video of Ukrainians invading Russia in early 2022.
  blowing up their own military vehicles to lend credibility to the second point.
  *to be clear Im talking about the incidents that occured in late January and early Feb 2022, while the Russians were building up military forces and when they "recognized" the separatist states and formally moved their military into Ukraine, about a week before the shooting started, all of this was going on
  Russia has always been a gong-show of shitty and pathetic theatre and drama for the cameras/newspapers*
  
  Attacking your own assets to make it look like an enemy isn't new. And attacks like this are nondestructive. They don't actually lose anything by doing so. But some idiots will just assume that it couldn't be anyone associated with the group being attacked.
  
  Chaos? To prove they could?

It could also be China. It could also be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds.

at this point, why believe someone who can't differentiate 8 billion from 8 million?
reading numbers is not his strong suit.
- You see, Elon has so much money, that he never sees his wealth in the full format because it the number would be so fucking long, so it's always abbreviated like 8,000,000K
  Easy mistake, you're just not rich enough!

“It’s what anyone else would do.”

Nothing brings dumb people together like a common enemy. It is Zelenskyy, someone told me. He had tears in his eyes and I heard it from his uncle's cousin wife.

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