Labour is going to be more radical than you think it is | Ian Dunt
Labour is going to be more radical than you think it is | Ian Dunt
Underneath all the trembling half-arsed conservatism, there's something genuinely exciting about the Labour policy agenda
Petrified fucking terror. That's the first thing you think when you look at Labour. A barely-concealed, buttoned-up, can't-sleep-at-night anxiety, lurking just behind the eyes. They're scared they'll fluff it. They're scared that in the white heat of the election campaign, the Tories will find some policy in their manifesto to weaponise against them and the whole thing will come crashing down.
If labour win with a large majority they need to fucking use it.
Get some laws repealed get better ones passed and for god sakes look at proportional representation the country is crying out for it
If labour win with a large majority proportional representation
If Labour win with a large majority, and I quote, "Now is not the time to be making radical changes to our parliament what we need is three to four full term parliament's with which to improve the country under a Labour government"..... they'll kick it into the long grass.
They are no fans of PR if it means a majority. Neither are the Tories. And round and round we go!
Personally I think PR is the single most important thing that we need to achieve if we ever want any progress in this country. We can't keep having this choice between the Tories and the party people vote for to keep the Tories out.
Maybe there needs to be a single issue party that needs to exist to apply pressure, like ukip did with Brexit.
Not even maybe.
We need two parties, a left wing PR group to pressure Labour, and a right wing one to pressure Conservatives.
It will let them argue the point that it's beneficial for each side of the room without getting bogged down with playing the tie colour game.
Labour have never won a national election that I was able to vote in. So this is all a bit...odd to me. I'm firmly in the 'any labour government is better than a Tory government' camp, and I know that makes me a bad leftists but it's the truth.
That said, I hope to god they don't waste this opportunity to do something that changes Britain for the better, because if we go back to the Tory's again after four or five years I'm not sure what we'll have left to save.
Bad lefties are the ones who insist that what they are personally comfortable with is the only thing that is acceptable.
Incrementalism sure is dull and boring, but the downside of governing with consent is that you have to meet people where they are.
They won the first couple I got to vote in. We got Blair sigh.
I found this bit striking:
The ultimate plan is to fully decarbonise the grid by 2030. The previous target was 2035 and most people in the sector thought it would be very challenging. 2030 is close to impossible. It suggests that Labour is going to put the country on a war footing.
So, even with what many people, me included, think is an overly cautious programme, Labour are promising something that... might be physically impossible.
Really good point here, though [emphasis mine]:
Similarly, tearing up the planning system is free. If you are heavily constrained in one area but have set yourself a requirement to achieve a very ambitious target in another, you are likely to opt for the options still available to you. Increased prices at subsidised auctions, on the other hand, cost money. But they fall within the fiscal rule, which allows borrowing to invest.
It's why spending isn't everything. Labour always get hammered for suggesting spending money, so they need to be radical elsewhere. This sounds promising.
An interesting peak behind the curtain and some cause for... what's that feeling called again? "Hope"? Nah, it'll not catch on.
considering they spent all day attacking suella's speech from the right....
Ian dunt? One of the toriest "labour" idiots around here.
Lol that is such an Ian Dunt headline. It writes itself.
There's literally no way to know what a Labour government will be like. All we know about Starmer is that he's prepared to lie and say whatever he thinks he needs to say to get power.
Was he lying to the left to get selected? Or is he lying to the right now to get elected?
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Even to whatever extent they have described any policies at all, they're probably just lies.
Still. The mystery prize will indeed be better than yet more crazed Tories. I suspect just not all that different.
You can easily guess what a labour government would be like by looking at what starmer has done so far, what he has said so far and who he has explicitly taken inspiration from.
I'll save you some googling: he's a Tory with a labour scarf on. More Tory than most Tories.
Not hard to extrapolate from there.