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There are people who can't visualize things mentally? Are they surprised by the brand new Vista every time they turn a corner? How would one recognize things without it being written down?
At a neural level, the processes of remembering, recognizing, and drawing or verbally describing visual information are different from recreating something in your mind.
I can't really make whole pictures in my head. Unless I literally sit down and devote as much focus as I can to it, I can only ever picture certain details, and usually those are pretty fuzzy. I'm probably a 3 or 4 in OP's photo, but I tend to remember visual things better than other people I know
Someone could read this and think that you can hallucinate apples but they're grey. The problem with the whole discussion is that
- some people can actually hallucinate at will
- some people can't hallucinate, and interpret the images as rough abstractions for sort of recalling the visual qualities of objects
- some people can't hallucinate, and interpret the images as hallucinations other people literally see
- some people can't remember what a thing looks like if they aren't looking at it
It's very hard to figure out who a given person is, because they're all like "I can see things" and "i can't see things" and it's meaningless
because they're all like "I can see things" and "i can't see things" and it's meaningless
Kinda true but we can apply that logic to any perception perception/sensory experience. that's why it's cool and good to have discussions about it and ask questions
I agree with that, it's just that this discussion has been drawn out probably thousands of times without people becoming more deliberate about what they mean, and because of that, the vast majority of people leave this type of discussion knowing less than they did when they started
some people can actually hallucinate at will
Wait, what? I finished a BS in psychology and they never taught me THAT?! Please, give me readings to devour on this subject.
I don't really know anything about the subject, I've just nailed down these types of discussions and people have claimed in much clearer terms that they actually generate images in their visual field.
It would actually be really interesting and pretty funny if none of that existed at all, and it's literally all just people with the exact same sensory experience thinking everyone else has a totally different brain!