5mo ago

Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use"

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/26407305

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Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use"

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Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use"

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Thunderbird "won't be adopting the firefox terms of use"

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They could have handled this much quicker. Now that I've configured my Neomutt, I'm just too invested.
It should be pretty clear from this that people do not understand the need for a company that makes a browser to have a ToS. If Thunderbird is made by the same company but doesn’t have a ToS but has more valuable information in it (it’s an email client) then clearly Mozilla isn’t doing the shady things that people are saying they are. If they were they would have started with the gold mine of emails which are a better source of user data than any browser related data. But they didn’t.
- It doesn't work like that. Many people believe that the ToS was added to make Mozilla legally able to train AIs on the collected data. Using emails would be more efficient but also much more shady which Mozilla doesn't want because their products are inferior in everything except for privacy claims already.
  
  Many people believe that the ToS was added to make Mozilla legally able to train AIs on the collected data.
  "Don’t attribute to malice what is easily explained by incompetence"
  So yea Mozilla wrote some terms that where ambiguous and could be interpreted in different ways, and 'many people believed' that they did this intentionally and had the worst intentions possible by their interpretation of the new ToS
  Then Mozilla rewrote that ToS after seeing how people were interpreting the original ToS:
  https://www.theverge.com/news/622080/mozilla-revising-firefox-terms-of-use-data
  And yea, now 'many people will believe' that 'Mozilla revised their decision to do this after the backslash' - OR, it was never their intention and now phrased it better after the confusion
  People just want to get their pitchforks out and start drama at any possible opportunity without evidence of wrongdoing... Mozilla added stupid stuff to the ToS, ok yea fair enough - but if they actually did "steal user data" - this would be very easily detectable with Wireshark or something