Radarr now suggests not to use uTorrent

If it keeps newcomers from making mistakes in client choice it looks like a good thing to me?
- But is the statement correct? What’s the story behind uTorrent?
  
  μTorrent, or uTorrent (see pronunciation), is a proprietary adware BitTorrent client owned and developed by Rainberry, Inc.
  That should be enough for any sane person. A proprietary bittorrent client is the worst joke i have heard in a while.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9CTorrent
  
  Yes. It stopped being good around 2010-2012 depending on who you ask. Unfortunately there are still plenty of old blog posts praising it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9CTorrent
  
  The parent company, bittorrent Inc got purchased by a serial crypto scammer Justin Sun at some point.
  In March 2022, the SEC charged Rainberry with fraud for selling cryptocurrencies Tronix (TRX) and BitTorrent (BTT) as unregistered securities.
  I think the SEC dropped all charges recently because the literal US government got on the payroll of Tether Inc, which basically runs the crypto show. Justin is just one of the appendages to the scheme.
  
  After uTorrent was brought by BitTorrent Inc, they started releasing new shady versions, first added ads then released uTorrent bundle with crypto mining software without user consent
  https://torrentfreak.com/new-utorrent-release-breaks-ties-with-bitcoin-miner-150413/

Took long enough. uTorrent has been cancerous for a long time now.
- at least 15 years lol
  
  I honestly couldn't say how long. I know I was late to the party on knowing what was going on but even I moved on from it a long time ago now.

didn't realize people were still using utorrent. been at least a decade since it was decent

Only a decade late.. Luckily qBittorrent is brilliant. And if qBittorrent somehow wasn't an option, I might go with BiglyBT - it's not the easiest on the eyes, but lots of settings.
- To be fair, if you set up a Servar stack, you should already know enough not to use utorrent.

uTorrent's brand recognition is crazy, it's been crap for years and it still the name people who don't torrrent often recognize.
Nice change, good to steer the novices away from that junk.
- It’s so ubiquitous that for about a second I thought wait what I thought that was the good one until I remembered that I’ve been using qBittorrent for a decade.
  For a time, it just was the client.

Has anyone even used uTorrent in the last decade?
Edit: Apparently, unfortunately, yes
- you would not believe how common it is. It's like making a class of highschoolers take a colorblindness test. There's always ONE who had no idea
  sidenote, it's really sad how the education system won't even spend 10 minutes a year to diagnose something that effects millions of children. There's FREE websites that they can just open on their board or projector
- I remember on Reddit I'd see like a post a month from some uneducated pirate person asking how to fix a utorrent issue. It was fun watching them try to justify using it with all the other legit, updated clients. It didn't ever go well for the OP.
  
  I mean if they want to use it despite being told the state of things then who cares? There’s nothing to win here, it’s their pc
  I couldn’t care less if someone on the internet sabotages their files because they want to be right 100% of time
- I used 2.2.1 well into the last decade. Every version after that was either pointless or full of some sort of malware.
- i still see it in my peers list

Transmission has never let me down.
- Its Single-threaded
- True. Sometimes it's weird about packed files, and cleaning up after itself. Still worth it.
- It gets messed up when downloading files onto a slow smb share but that's mostly my bad
- It doesn't have a proper dark theme in Windows so it let me down when it flashbanged me.
- My only gripe was that it doesn't handle (unencoded) spaces in a URL name, which is probably correct behavior but they're in the titles of torrents on some sites, so I'd have to manually edit them each time. I ended up just using qBT.

I thought people either used the old 2.2.1 version or jumped ship. Had no idea it was still going.
- Same, I was under the impression that this was fairly common knowledge, but it's good to have it openly announced by some authority on the matter.

If uTorrent has no haters, I am dead

I've always used Transmission, since there's a Docker container I use that bakes in your VPN-of-choice & a killswitch.
https://haugene.github.io/docker-transmission-openvpn/
That said, it looks like it hasn't been updated in over a year... I wonder if there's anything else out there that does the same thing as this. (EDIT: Yes. Google brings up plenty of choices.)
- You can set qBittorrent to only use a certain interface, and set that to the wireguard interface of your VPN.
- I been using Transmission since it came out 20 years ago. I never understood why you would use anything else.
  It's FOSS and has the simplest interface with all the options.
  Throughout the years I've seen so many of these apps get mass-adopted, then a few years later some issue comes up that makes people mass-exodus to another app and it starts all over again.
  Meanwhile, Transmission has been consistent (and you can self-host/run seedboxes with it).
- I switched from that container to one that uses qbittorrent and a VPN.
  qBittorrent web UI works better on a phone for my use case, and I kept having to manually restart the transmission container whenever the VPN connection dropped.
  
  I run qBittorrent on a server (with a VPN as the only outside connection) and use an open source app to control it from my mobile devices. It can catch magnet: links and torrent files and send them to qBittorrent via its API.
  
  qbitcontroller is a brilliant app on android. It sends push notifications when your downloads complete and it bundles everything into a brilliant interface for mobile imo.
- I was never a huge fan of those binhex containers assuming that's what you're using. Updates become a chore for maintainers when containers try to do too much and they also become responsible for making sure everything works together. Also, just me, but I don't like the idea of funneling other traffic that needs a vpn through a container that is tightly coupled to my torrent client.
  Recommend trying a standalone transmission container and using a gluetun container's network. https://docker-compose.de/en/gluetun/

Do people still use transmission? That seems like be the default one I see in prebuilt torrent server containers.
- It's not bad but it's pretty bare. A lot of people like their bells and whistles these days.
  Edit: Changed the wording to be less broad for all the "But I..." specials.
  
  speak for yourself. if it's pretty bare, it just moved to the top of my list
  
  Transmission's minimal features is what I like about it.
- For me the best are:
  Qbittorrent
  Transmission QT
  Ktorrent
  Deluge
  Special mention: BiglyBT Fork of Azureus without the shit of Azureus
  
  Oh there's the other person who remembers the original Azureus!
  Okay I'm kidding, it was fairly popular before it became Vomit... I mean Vuze. After it went to shit I bounced around till I found utorrent and then a bit later Transmission, Deluge and now Qbittorrent in a container.
- There are other options such as qbittorrent or deluge though I would not recommend deluge due to IP leaks and it hasn't been updated since 2022
- It's the default included with Ubuntu but they (Ubuntu) haven't updated it to be the latest released version. You have to add their PPA.
  I switched over to qbittorrent for better control over what happens after the files download a few years ago.
- Yepp, been using it for years. Lots of third party app support and a minimal web interface to add a new 🧲🚢 in a hurry
  Definitely does not have any bells and whistles though, doesn't bother me but is a dealbreaker for some.
- Yeah, Transmission is pretty nice, there's nothing wrong with it. It's also pretty popular among macOS users, because it looks and feels like a native app.

There's a migration program to transfer torrents from utorrent to qbittorrent.
https://forum.qbittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?t=3224
I remember using it way back when, and they've kept it updated.
- Isn't it as simple as exporting all torrents as .torrent files, importing them in qB, then pointing qB to the same downloads folder?
  
  Some people have torrents across various directories or even renamed files in them (yes, it's possible and useful for crossseeding between trackers with different naming schemes). Of course, this makes migration way more difficult.

if I still downloaded directly to my local drive, I'd use utorrent BUT only the 2.2.1 version. it's been at least 4 years since I've done that due to a lack of having a functional laptop so I've been out of downloading stuff that way for years, but even then I knew that modern utorrent was bad. I actually stopped using any new version once bittorrent bought it.

I'll be the one: use rtorrent
- Why rtorrent vs QBittorrent?

ruTorrent)))
Скачал? Раздавай!

some private trackers won't let you use uTorrent either, good.

If they would support a client like Rain I would actually switch to the *arr stack.
- Don't need to support every client, if the client supports folder monitor you can use blackhole

Damn, I don't know the context but this is cool af

Why torrent when you can use newsgroups? No need to seed, just download and done. Haven’t torrented for 10 years.
- Don't you need to pay to be able to get access?
  
  Yes, but not a massive amount. I pay annually and it works out to about $7-8 a month for 50mbps of bandwidth and unlimited downloads. Then use *arr apps and sabnzbd to manage everything.
  
  Depends on how much you download. You can pay a once-off payment for a block of data and it lasts indefinitely. I've got a 5TB block I've had for over 10 years. I think it was maybe $25 when I got it?
  Edit: If you need more data, there's plans with unlimited data for a few dollars per month.