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BioWare veteran calls out the 'cruelty' of fans celebrating layoffs: 'You are crossing a line, and you're probably attacking the wrong person anyway'

www.pcgamer.com BioWare veteran calls out the 'cruelty' of fans celebrating layoffs: 'You are crossing a line, and you're probably attacking the wrong person anyway'

"You don't know the circumstances that resulted in the thing that you're mad at."

BioWare veteran calls out the 'cruelty' of fans celebrating layoffs: 'You are crossing a line, and you're probably attacking the wrong person anyway'

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I'm willing to bet my ass that gamers cheering for the ubisoft layoff will be complaining about the "good old time" of AAA studio in a couple of years. Spoiler: devs are losing their jobs, not executives.
- Well they aren't cheering for the employees who are laid off. It's more like the Luigi killing of the murderer uhc exec. The people weren't happy the exec was dead but that the protection they felt as a CEO was broken. Same with Ubisoft they have been behaving badly for so long., EA as well, the gamers just want change for the better and layoffs signal that change
  
  This is true for a lot of people but unfortunately there very much are some targeting the people losing their jobs. I've seen plenty of people, even some on Lemmy in the past, who hate individual devs because the game they were looking forward to wasn't good.
  Is it a loud minority? Probably. That doesn't make it OK, though, and it doesn't reduce the mental hit to these devs in an already bad moment of their lives.
  
  The thing is, when you side with the anti-woke crowd, you make them feel legitimate. The latest AC game wasn't even out and gamers were crushing it because "black samurai" and "women".
  Also, people are praising Steam, who has under 100 employees, takes 30% of the price of EVERY GAMES SOLD, and doesn't let you own you games, but bashing studios (purely greedy capitalist business too, we agree) with thousands of employees who in the end are mostly passionate devs... That doesn't make much sens to me and sadly, in the end it's always devs that will pay for executive's bad decision.
  
  Also, people are praising Steam, who has under 100 employees, takes 30% of the price, and doesn’t let you own you games, but bashing studios (purely greedy capitalist business too, we agree) with thousands of employees who in the end are mostly passionate devs…
  One is releasing a good product and the other don't? Most people care for their money spend.
  
  Yes but muh bougie activism.
  
  They clearly don't considering they're not boycotting Steam which takes a much bigger cut than it needs to.
  But hey, as long as it's Gabe that has a yacht collection, it's alright!
  
  How Steam getting a bigger cut is impacting their products negatively? Do you really believe by decreasing the margin the game will be cheaper? Even when the same game has the same price in PS5/Xbox/Switch and PC. That's my point people doesn't care with things that doesn't affect them directly, the Steam margin hurts a lot less the end user for them to care.
  
  It's hurting consumers because it's less money going to the people doing the actual work to bring them a product and more money going to the boss who's a billionaire that has a yacht collection.
  Always funny to see the anti establishment crowd looking the other way when it comes to Valve.
  The only reason games are so expensive is because of all the leeches above the devs, the devs could make the same amount of money they currently make while reducing a ton of overhead going to multi-millionaires and billionaires, otherwise more money could go to the devs and less to the leeches, no matter the alternative, it would be better for the consumers.
  
  The only reason games are so expensive is because of all the leeches above the devs, the devs could make the same amount of money they currently make while reducing a ton of overhead going to multi-millionaires and billionaires, otherwise more money could go to the devs and less to the leeches, no matter the alternative, it would be better for the consumers.
  Sadly that's only works with indie studios. Cutting 30% of steam for a Ubisoft/EA game only moves the money to Ubisoft/EA.
  
  They're part of the fucking problem as well! None of those rich assholes need people like you defending them!
  
  That’s my point people doesn’t care with things that doesn’t affect them directly, the Steam margin hurts a lot less the end user for them to care.
  Yeah they are, but the whole argument is: Why people are praising Steam but bashing studios. I'm telling the why: For the vast majority of people what matters is the product that they consume, Steam release good stuff, the big studios are struggling to release anything good. Changing anything about how Steam operates barely impact anything about the studios and slops continues to be released. -30% with Steam and the stakeholders of the studios get 30% more money, the devs continues to be underpaid and overworked like always and the head of studio is still chasing a trend. That's why nobody cares about Steam.
  In Bioware case, the devs have had problems with the studio since DAO, most people didn't care until Anthem, the first big failure, and they released two more bad games. If at least Veilguard was good, people will not say anything about how the devs suffered to release the game, because they received a good product.
  
  It's baffling to see that it's absolutely impossible to emit any form of criticism about steam (a soul-less dirty capitalist business like any other) without having an army of gamers ready to die to defend it. Yeah they offer a pretty good service, but taking a 30% on games is ridiculous.
  
  And this is the sad reality of Dev will suffer over executive decisions good or bad. Despite the fact that the industry has responded over and over again, just make good games and the gamers will play. But also sadly make bad games and gamers support that too soooo?

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