When (first) orbital flight?First integrated flight test occurred April 20, 2023. "The vehicle cleared the pad and beach as Starship climbed to an apogee of ~39 km over the Gulf of Mexico – the highest of any Starship to-date. The vehicle experienced multiple engines out during the flight test, lost altitude, and began to tumble. The flight termination system was commanded on both the booster and ship."
What's happening next? SpaceX has assessed damage to Stage 0 and is implementing fixes and changes including a water deluge/pad protection/"shower head" system. No major repairs to key structures appear to be necessary.
Why no flame diverter/flame trench below the OLM?Musk tweeted on April 21: "3 months ago, we started building a massive water-cooled, steel plate to go under the launch mount. Wasn’t ready in time & we wrongly thought, based on static fire data, that Fondag would make it through 1 launch." Regarding a trench, note that the Starship on the OLM sits 2.5x higher off the ground than the Saturn V sat above the base of its flame trench, and the OLM has 6 exits vs. 2 on the Saturn V trench.
There's a new (lord I hate the new name) thread from The Ringwatchers @Ringwatchers about the Hot Stage Load Head et al. Someone did an unroll and it's here. I haven't time at the moment to go over it in detail. It looks like two ring sections will be above and below, and they will be reinforced because they are irrelevant to the hot stage sieve. The Hot Stage Load Head has been reinforced in several ways; there are pictures. The assembly will go into the can crusher.
If I remember correctly, they can launch with up to three engines missing. I guess the early shutdown of the fourth engine after ~2.74s triggered an abort of the static fire, which was supposed to last for 5 seconds?
10:35am- Sub coolers are off. Working a problem in the OTF?
10:39am- Workers head to pad/ Roadblock still in place
10:42am- Ship puck shucker headed back to Masseys
11:00am- Workers at the generator by the Lox sub coolers
11:04am- Pope stack firing back up
11:32am- Workers starting to leave pad
11:35am- All 3 vehicles leave. Pad clear again
11:44am- Lox subcoolers going again
12:15pm- OLM vent
12:53pm- Frost forming on the methane sub coolers
1:01pm- Waterfall mode on the OLM vent. We’re getting close to fueling
1:03pm- OLM vent stopped. Prop load should be underway. Around 90 minutes to test possibly
1:06pm- Engine chill underway
1:08pm- New engine cavity purge vents going
1:09pm- Frost forming quickly
1:10pm- Lox chill pit active
1:18pm- Methane frost line forming
2:02pm- Drone
2:05pm- OLM vent. Loading complete
2:08pm- FireX / Deluge / Fire (Lots of steam)
2:10:30- Deluge stops
2:12pm- Depress vent
2:41pm- Pad looks good but they are going to need some new fencing
3:17pm- Engine compartment and Deluge plate purge
3:47pm- Another purge from the new engine compartment vents
3:53pm- Big depress vent (That should be it)
4:55pm- OLM vent
5:00pm- Road open
6:16pm- OLM vent finally ends
7:59pm- 3 SPMT’s headed to launch site with counterweights and connectors. B9 coming back?
8:04:32pm- SPMT down! Looked like a hydraulic failure? Front went up, back all the way down and to the left where the weight was. They got it leveled back out and going pretty quick though.
9:22pm- Workers return to pad
9:28pm- 3 workers kneel down to look at one spot on the plate
9:48pm- After checking the rest of the pad, they came back for a second look at the one spot
10:15pm- Workers headed up the stairs to check the inside of the OLM
TheSpaceEngineer @mcrs987 provided a tweetXpulsion:
Quick rendition of this new ring, it evidently has less material but has more space that could be used to incorporate stringers with the forward section of the booster
they could also do internal stringers and ribs inside the ring, similar to the ship aft skirt
Someone asked, "why are they different from the stringers above? did they put stringers on stringers?". TheSpaceEngineer replied, "yes", with a zoom in on the middle, where they really did put larger stringers on top of existing stringers.
Marcus House @MarcusHouse 7:02 PM - Jul 28, 2023 (tweet) noted about the SpaceX image, "If you look closely, you can see that much of the water is shooting out in the exact pattern needed for the 33 engines. It is a real thing of beauty."
Jack Beyer @thejackbeyer with NASA SpaceFlight on The Bad Place posted an image with << Looks like we have a hot staging test article on our hands! Label reads "B-11 FWD RETAIN / HOT STAGE LOAD HEAD". @NASASpaceflight >>
And they’re clearing the launch area quickly. I wouldn’t be surprised if static fire prop loading starts at beginning of the window (~7 hours from now?)
The FAA, which is overseeing an investigation into the April 20 launch, said Wednesday it was still awaiting the report it needs to identify corrective actions SpaceX must take to get the OK to launch again from Boca Chica.
An FAA spokesperson declined to speculate when the agency’s investigation might be completed, saying that “public safety and actions yet to be taken by SpaceX will dictate the timeline.”
“The FAA will not allow a return to flight operations until it determines that any system, process, or procedure related to the mishap does not affect public safety or any other aspect of the operator’s license,” the spokesperson said. “The mishap investigation is ongoing.”
Speculation in The Other Place is that the FAA is not worried about the rock tornado, but likely most worried about the Flight Termination System (specifically the long time lag between firing and actual destruction), and the steering failing.
The article also mentioned about the environmental lawsuit, but it has no new information on that.
8:08am- 2 SPMT’s with counterweights headed to Massey’s. It was a slow night at the OLM as far as lifts going up.
11:59am- Dance floor lowered on to its carrier
12:28pm- Rolling out from under the OLM
2:23pm- 3rd section of the 5th floor of the new mega bay is lifted
3:09pm- Clear pad announcement
4:56pm- Pope stack venting
5:30pm- Venting can be heard and lifts are up at S25
5:54pm- S28 getting frosty at Masseys
6:02:32pm- Something went bang on both SBL and Rover 2. (18:02:28 on Rover 2. Not quite as loud as on SBL)(One of the mods on SBL said it was just a dumpster lid. Which Jack was out there according to his Instagram. On Rover 2 though, 2 people look up towards the OLM and back away.)
Hey @LettuceTurnipTheBeet@lemm.ee, just wondering if it's deliberate that the old thread is pinned instead of this one? Might just be the app I'm using, but it's starting to get hard to find this thread.
Hmm, on desktop, the threads that I see pinned are Starship Dev #47 (this thread), and August discussion. I also just checked on Connect, Sync, Jerboa, Thunder, and Liftoff, and they all match the desktop version. What app are you using? Perhaps the sort has malfunctioned?
My take is that the ring may not survive. Stage separation may damage it beyond reuse. Having it be detachable means they can swap it out. It would be a shame to scrap a complete booster just because the top end got a little bent.
9:45am- Work continues on the OLM and B9. The squid was disconnected from S25 and reinstalled again overnight. Workers are working on one of the tracking dishes. No signs of anything ready to roll 45 minutes into the current closure.
2:06pm- 26.1 aft skirt being lifted onto the hot stage test article at Massey’s.
3:47pm- Top of can crusher lifted on to the hot stage test article
4:28pm- Vent hose removed from B9
5:16pm- Lox hatch being reinstalled on B9
10:00pm- Work continues on the OLM, Chopsticks, and the SQD. 2 more inspection plates were reinstalled on the cryo leg while the cameras were focused on Massey’s. That leaves 3 to go but the top 2 look like the scaffolding will have to be removed before they can go back on.
But they don't provide evidence that the bidet's output is a regulated chemical, whether "industrial process water" or "stormwater".
In an email to CNBC, a spokesperson for the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ), the state's environmental regulator, confirmed that as of July 28, SpaceX had not applied for what is called a Texas Pollutant Discharge Elimination System (TPDES) permit at its Starbase facility. The regulator said the SpaceX site has previously attained three stormwater permit authorizations....
The representative for TCEQ told CNBC that the regulator "recommends applications be submitted at least 330 days before the proposed construction of a wastewater treatment facility." Stormwater permits take far less time to process.
The people quoted are that spokesperson, but also ESGHound, who is notorious for anti-SpaceX hit pieces, and the lead counsel for the recent environmental lawsuit against the FAA.
3:10am- Vent hose to the OLM reinstalled. Air handling unit was brought back in during B9’s move
7:12am- Generator for the air handling unit brought back in
9:00am- Lifts go up, lifts go down. Not a lot of activity at the pad. So I think that’s a good sign that the pad fared well during the static fire.
10:59am- Semi delivers the load spreader used to lift the deluge tanks. The 3rd tank must be getting close. Work at the OLM seems to be centered around the BQD this morning. There’s also been 4 water trucks.
11:08am- Here comes the scaffolding on top of the OLM
1:10pm- Looks like another Lox pump is getting installed
2:00pm- Only 3 sections of scaffolding with guard rails going up to the right of the BQD. Another water truck arrived. It looks like they may be pumping out the deluge pond.
2:26pm- Worker climbs up into the BQD housing
2:40pm- More scaffolding pieces being unloaded from a lift. Ugh. The top of the OLM was looking so clean.
3:00pm- LR11000 has moved over to the old Landing Pad area. Another indication that the deluge tank should be arriving soon
3:49pm- Workers up at the SQD
7:01pm- Lift up inspecting the new stairs.
9:18pm- Crane returns to the launch site and extends
9:32pm- Workers grinding on the top of the shielding on the new staircase
12:59am- Lifts go back up. Looks like it was just a quick test during the time that is normally dinner break.
8:04am- Concrete pump truck goes up over by the deluge tank farm
10:35am- Inspection plates going back on the cryo leg
11:45am- Lifts have been up at the OLM and S25. Looks like they are starting to remove the scaffolding around B9’s lox hatch.
12:05pm- Pump truck went down
4:25pm- Lifts have been up all around the OLM, at the top of the raceway on S25, and around the hot stage test article at Massey’s. No cables have been connected on the can crusher that we can see yet.
11:22pm- Lots of work on the hot stage ring test article still. Haven’t seen any welding flashes but it seems they are trying to secure it somehow. Lifts still going up all around the OLM and to the dance floor. All the scaffolding has been removed from the top though and the final cryo leg inspection plates reinstalled
1:05am- Pump truck goes up over towards the back side of the pad. Still working on the spillway over to the retention pond?
1:53am- Forklift clearing out some of the equipment and clutter around the OLM
5:28am- Pump truck folds up
7:06am- Dance floor is being lowered
7:37am- First segment of level 5 of the new mega bay is lifted
8:00am- Work on the booster and OLM continued overnight as well as the dirt work along with the edge of the new pad. Forklifts cleared out a significant amount of equipment. It’s almost like they are getting ready for some kind of test.
8:20am- It looks like some of the engine shielding being carried off the dance floor
9:18am- Aerial work platform that had been used for the methane tank inspection leaves
9:24am- Forklift brings over a skid of supplies to the dance floor
11:05am- Dance floor goes back up
11:26am- Work on the silt barrier around the back left side of the OLM
11:47am- Forklift removing scraps from around the left side of the OLM
12:58pm- I wonder if there is something special about the blue jumpsuits the workers wear into the lox tank of B9
2:25pm- Forklift brings in more plastic barricades to line the drop off at the edge of the pad
2:39pm- They appear to be using a fork lift to rip out some of the silt fence
2:53pm- Crane is lifting the lid for the deluge pipe bunker
3:27pm- Forklift removes one of the lighting towers from the OLM. (If we see the generator and air moving unit being moved, I think we can pretty much guarantee a test is coming)
5:25pm- Lifts back up at S25
5:55pm- 3 pick up trucks with water tanks arrive at the OLM
6:30pm- 4th pick up shows up
6:39pm- Forklift picks up a triangular piece of metal and moves it behind the cryo pipe leg
6:43pm- Guys in the pick ups are power washing the pad
6:44pm- Water tanker shows up
7:22pm- 2nd water tanker
7:33pm- S26 is picked up and swung over by the remnants of SN15
8:55pm- Workers inside of the cryo leg
9:11pm- Workers tuck the doghouse in for the night and cover it with a tarp
9:13pm- Pressure washers leaving
9:51pm- Pulling the tarp over the doghouse up farther over the leg. Looks like it’s for welding
10:29pm- Workers remove some of the plastic barriers that were along the edge of the pad
8:45am- Lifts went up, lifts went down. Work on B9’s lox tank continued. Aerial work platform back up at B9’s methane tank area.
11:15am- Hot staging test article lifted onto the crusher at Massey’s
12:22pm- Starlink dispenser rolled back into the payload building
4:07pm- Hot staging ring removed from test article. (Okay going back and looking at the pictures from yesterday, I didn’t even notice that it was just being held by chains)
5:00pm- Crews have been working on B9, OLM, and the SQD. Paint crews have been up at the OTF. New black and red scissor lift arrived along with 3 new black tool boxes. (New sub contractor?)
5:04pm- Hot staging ring being lifted back on
9:15pm- OLM and B9 work continues. Crane moved something behind the OLT but couldn’t see what.
10:00pm- Intermittent road delay window opens. S25 is still on Stand B.
7:47am- Workers shoveling dirt out of the dog house
8:37am- Straps attached to the dog house
8:40am- Forklift with more rebar on the right side of the OLM
9:15am- Lift up at S15
9:30am- Aerial work platform arrives between OLM and OLT
9:54am- More formwork is going up between the OLM and the retention pond
10:30am- Crane lifts doghouse and flips it over
10:54am- Doghouse re rigged and lifted
11:03am- Crane carried it over and lowered it back in place at the bottom of the cryo pipe lid
11:42am- Pump truck is up over at the old landing pad area
12:56pm- 3rd piece of shielding goes up in the left side of the stairs
1:10pm- Pump truck folds up
1:36pm- Excavators digging to the left of the pad that was just poured. Looks like they are making a dirt ramp beside the edge of the concrete so it’s not a 3ft drop off.
1:44pm- Pump truck goes back up by the retention pond. End of boom goes behind the OLT
1:52pm- Paint crew is back at it
2:13pm- Pump truck folds up again
3:54pm- Lift up at the lower left side skid of the chopsticks
4:04pm- Forklift lifts metal plate over towards the data cable leg
4:15pm- Crew back up at B9’s methane tank
7:27pm- RIP SN15. You proved to the world it was possible and paved the way for all that is to come. Your legend will live on when the story of starship is told.
9:07pm- Forklift brings over another inspection hole cover plate to the data cable leg
9:18pm- 3rd inspection plate brought over
9:32pm- 4th plate
9:43pm- 5th plate
10:05pm- Crane lifts a piece of plastic pipe up on to the OLM from the dirt off to the side. One worker then picks it up and drags it off to the side
10:21pm- Crane lifts a remote controlled trench roller up onto the OLM from same area as pipe
10:56pm- There’s just something about a shower of sparks flying off the top of the OLM at night that makes me smile.
7:35am- Nothing to big to report from last night. Workers have been welding the shielding installed on the new staircase leg most of the night. Shielding was also reinstalled on the leg to the right of the staircase. People could be seen up on the dance floor and top of the OLM as well.
11:45am- (SpongeBob 4 hours later meme) Either they are just taking it easy today or they really are done with most of the big stuff.
4:30pm- One inspection plate was added back to the cryo leg. That leaves 4 more to go. Work on the OLM and dance floor has continued.
7:35pm- A couple lifts went up and down. A forklift drove around with nothing on the forks. First shift workers on top of the OLM and at B9 seemed to call it early. (Let’s see if second shift is any more exciting)
9:01pm- 26.1 skirt and B11 hot stage test article roll out on Hwy 4 headed to Massey’s
2:50am- B9’s transport stand is rolled up next to the OLM
9:30am- Lifts have been up and down all around the OLM as well as workers on top. Workers are also on top of the booster transport stand.
10:00am- 4 lifts up at the can crusher at Massey’s. Did they do a test and are inspecting now?
11:08am- Chopsticks closing
11:16am- Chopsticks lowering around B9
11:29am- Chopsticks close in on B9
12:54pm- Stabilizer arms going in
1:07pm- B9 lifted up off the OLM
1:11pm- Chopsticks translate over
1:20pm- Lowering towards stand
1:22pm- Holding above the stand
1:33pm- One of the stabilizers on the stand goes up
1:38pm- Second stabilizer goes up
3:16pm- Lowered the rest of the way onto the stand
4:35pm- Workers on top of the transport stand. Looks like they are checking the hold down clamps.
5:23pm- Workers on the stand appear to be done
7:45pm- Lifts have been up at the can crusher most of the day. They have cleared out now though and it looks like there may be tension on the cables (or might just be because the lighting has changed)
8:46pm- Chopsticks release B9, open and lower some
9:40pm- B9 rollling
9:44pm- Booster stopped after clearing the chopsticks which then fully closed. Light truck turned off
8:54am- Forklift brings in first piece of shielding for the left side of the new staircase
11:15am- Lifts go up, lifts go down.
11:19am- Gantry crane going into the payload integration building
1:22pm- Concrete pump truck goes up over by the retention pond
2:42pm- Crane lifts 2nd piece of shielding up to the left side of the new staircase
3:30pm- S15 is getting hooked to the crane in the rocket garden. (They wouldn’t?)
3:54pm- Lift goes up to the boosters methane tank access with a ladder. Looks like they are going to inspect it too.
5:50pm- Pump truck is down
6:29pm- Chopsticks swing to the side
6:38pm- Chopsticks lowering (maybe they’re finally going to grease them)
6:51pm- Chopsticks all the way down sitting on the stop
7:24pm- Long reach excavator is back. Looks like more fondag work tonight
7:39pm- First piece shielding goes on right side of the new staircase
10:06pm- Excavator moved over by the new pour and a concrete truck has arrived. Looks like they aren’t wasting time and already pouring the fondag on top of it.
10:17pm- Crane lifts second piece of shielding up to the right side of the new stairs
2:17am- Semi Tanker truck arrives at the pad. Backs up to right of the camera
2:50am- 2nd tanker truck arrives. Backs up to left side of pad. Red and white. I’m 90% sure they are water
3:53am- Ventilation hose gets removed from B9
3:57am- Tanker on the left side leaves
4:30am- B9’s ventilation hose is removed from the leg
4:46am- Dance floors hose is removed
5:00am- OLM’s hose is removed
5:34am- Crane lifts more high pressure tanks over at the deluge tank farm
6:11am- Forklift clearing right side of pad
7:00am- Generator is towed away
7:05am- Air conditioning unit is hauled off
8:08am- Light trailer towed away
8:27am- Starlink trailer hauled away. Pad is pretty much clear now. Just some cones around
8:31am- Crews sweeping where the equipment was parked
8:43am- Crane shows up at the pad
8:48am- Another water tanker shows up. Goes to the left of the pad. Backs up by the deluge pipe bunker. Priming the pipes?
8:50am- Lifts up at the orbital tank farm
8:59am- Crane lifts the big (argon?) tank next to the tower and moves it further back towards the old landing pad area
9:11am- Tanker truck leaves
9:24am- Lifts at the OTF are painting
9:53am- 3 pick ups still at the pad. Employees walking around the area and 1 guy with a backpack leaf blower blowing the area off.
9:56am- Crews still working between the pad and retention pond areas
10:13am- PA announcement- Overhead drone operations for the next hour
10:53am- 2 pick ups leave. At least one worker still walking around
11:00am- Pad appears clear. There are still 2 lifts on the highway 4 side of the tank farm. Will they wait for them to go down?
11:21am- People appearing out of nowhere at the pad.
11:26am- Meeting of I’d guess engineers under the pad
11:50am- People leaving pad again. Paint crew is down at the OTF. There are still a few stragglers on top of the OLM.
12:00pm- At least 3 people still on top and 1 under the OLM.
12:08pm- PA announcement- Clear the pad for deflector testing
12:33pm- Another announcement to clear the pad and alarm sounding
12:36pm- Chopsticks raising
12:52pm- Drone
1:00pm- Drone telling someone to leave
1:09:58- Deluge test
1:11pm- The tarp survived!!!!!!!!
1:23pm- Raptor install stand headed towards the build site
1:26pm- Chopsticks being lowered
2:03pm- People back at the pad
3:09pm- Forklift brings the air conditioning unit back to the base of the OLM
3:19pm- Lift goes back up to S25
3:39pm- Generator is brought back over
3:56pm- Dance floor is being lowered
4:08pm- Vent hose for the OLM Is being reinstalled
4:18pm- Another row of high pressure tanks is being lifted over at the deluge farm
4:22pm- Tarp was removed from the cryo leg
5:06pm- An air compressor comes magically flying through the air from behind the tower. (Okay, It maybe getting a little help from a crane)
5:37pm- After a quick inspection the dance floor is being lifted back up
5:46pm- Another small generator gets brought over
6:09pm- And since this is SpaceX, let’s cryo proof S28.
6:36pm- Frost on S28’s methane tank
7:00pm- S28’s lox tank looks full frosty
7:39pm- Forklift brings a light tower back (Thankfully because it was getting hard to make things out)
10:26pm- Workers are on top of the OLM and the dance floor. Some engineer types have been walking around the plate but aren’t really getting down to look at things. Forklifts have been bringing equipment back over to the right side. S28 still has some frost.
1:05am- Pump truck goes up over towards the back side of the pad. Still working on the spillway over to the retention pond?
1:53am- Forklift clearing out some of the equipment and clutter around the OLM
5:28am- Pump truck folds up
7:06am- Dance floor is being lowered
7:37am- First segment of level 5 of the new mega bay is lifted
8:00am- Work on the booster and OLM continued overnight as well as the dirt work along with the edge of the new pad. Forklifts cleared out a significant amount of equipment. It’s almost like they are getting ready for some kind of test.
So that looks like a successful cryo test. Think they still have closures for the next few days. They just finished pouring the last big plate so they might have to wait a few days before doing a static fire, but a spin prime test could be soon.
This whole campaign is going really quickly. Outstanding items are the hot staging ring and FAA approval though, who knows how long that takes.
Didn’t expect to see them ready this quickly; without the hot staging change they could have been ready end of the month.