DisabledAceSocialist [comrade/them] @hexbear.net

6mo ago

Disability benefits to be cut "ruthlessly" as keeping disabled people alive is a "waste" of money, says UK government.

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"Even more stringent benefit cuts are on the cards." "Ministers are planning billions in cuts to disability benefits." "the House of Lords economic affairs committee said this might not be enough."

FFS just legalise euthanasia already. I'd rather get a quick injection than starve to death out on the streets. Even the Nazis were kinder to the disabled, gassing them to death quickly.

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DisabledAceSocialist @lemmygrad.ml

6mo ago

Disability benefits to be cut "ruthlessly" as keeping disabled people alive is a "waste" of money, says UK government.

www.msn.com /en-gb/money/other/benefits-bill-to-be-cut-in-ruthless-crackdown-on-wasteful-spending/ar-AA1xy9fd

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Even from a capitalist growth perspective it is not 'waste', giving disabled people money allows them to spend it on stuff. And poor disabled people are likely to spend almost all they receive.
- Also disabled people create jobs for other people like nurses, carers, people who make and install mobility aids, etc.
- they spent so long trying to convince people about austerity by using the household budget analogy that they started believing it themselves
- Where are they spending it though? Online companies outside the country?
  I'd wager that other than groceries a lot of people who are housebound by disability benefits are getting both their entertainment and their consumer deals from companies outside britain.
  
  rent
  
  How much do you think disabled people get? Even when I'm in receipt of benefits, its just enough to pay the bills. ie - utilities, rent, food and basic clothes.
Even if you were to accept fascist "useless eaters" rhetoric as true, taking care of people who can't provide for themselves is kind of the point of society. If we can't do that, then what's the point? Might as well burn it all down and return to monkey.
- Some anthropologists say the first sign of civilization is a healed femur. Someone who breaks their femur needs assistance throughout the healing process and likely afterwards as it impedes their ability to care for themselves, gather food/water, etc. So an individual that shows signs of having broken their femur and lived long enough for it to heal must have had some sort of support/care network of friends/family.
  I guess what I'm saying is that neolithic hunter-gatherers had a better sense of community and mutual care than the modern healthcare system
  
  Yeah, but they didn't have a profit motive to dRiVe InNoVaTiOn.
- society is good because it's a structure you can exploit and steal wealth from, but society is bad because it's a structure that requires at least a minimum of maintenance. and we all know how neoliberalism deals with maintenance.
- My favorite video just kinda displays how far from our own humanity we're straying when tossing people to the proverbial wolves.
  
  I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video
- : “We must get rid of the useless eaters! They’re taking our money!”
  : “Please sir, just one job? Are you hiring?”
  : “Sorry kiddo, all set here! I just don’t need any more workers. Sorry! All the work’s been done.”
  Then they’re not ‘eaters’ are they? No one is being stolen from. Is a spare tire in a car ‘dead weight’?
Liberals once again reproducing the logic and goals of Aktion T4.
At the end of capitalism, there is Hitler.
Let's see how capitalism is doing today
keeping disabled people alive is a "waste" of money
vote to kick tories out
look at replacement
tories
- Look democracy is when you're allowed to choose between blue tories and red tories (and maybe sometimes orange tories if you're good). If we can just switch back and forth between two parties with identical economic policy another dozen or so times I'm sure it'll all work out.
This shit makes me sick. Most of my friends have mental disabilities and some have physical disabilities. I'm friends with someone that is wheel chair bound, and has to work 2 jobs because her disability checks don't pay enough and she needs assistance. She can't even get married if she wanted to because the government will cut her disability payments. She deserves a better life but is stuck in this shitty system.
- You bring up an important point that I don't see talked about enough. Disabled people don't have marriage equality for this reason.
  
  It's partially why I haven't sought a professional diagnosis from a psychologist. My therapist confirmed my diagnosis though. I'm married so if I was to earn disability payments after paying $3000 or so for a diagnosis, my already low payments would be cut in half because I'm married.
  The only reason I've ever even considered seeking disability payments is because I'm among the unlucky statistics of autism that is historically unemployed.
People 10-100k years ago, what pop culture call "cavemen", took care of disabled people better.
Even medieval euros weren't so fucking cruel.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1879981711000064
"The provision and receipt of health care may therefore reflect some of the most fundamental aspects of a culture. "
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/science/ancient-bones-that-tell-a-story-of-compassion.html
I thought this was a Trump policy, turns out it's Starmer
- “But if we don’t give reform what they want, they’ll get elected and REALLY get what they want!”
what the fuck were they even fighting about in the world wars?
- Who gets to be on top.
FFS just legalise euthanasia already. I'd rather get a quick injection than starve to death out on the streets. Even the Nazis were kinder to the disabled, gassing them to death quickly.
My brother made a good point that they won't legalize euthanasia (in particular for mental ill ess like depression) because they're afraid too many people will decide to take that option, especially as capitalism continues to fail. Too many people taking that option means nobody to clean toilets for the rich, as the dumbass Ozzy Osbourne daughter put it
- CW: suicide ::: spoiler spoiler What you described is my worst nightmare. Really sorry you had to go through that. I'm in Canada but even at my worst moments I never even let my doctors or therapist have even the suggestion that I was suicidal. I don't know what the best strategy is to deal with people having a mental health crisis but personally getting institutionalized would probably drive me insane. The other thing that comes to mind is that so much mental illness is caused by capitalism ie rent, low wages, poverty. All issues national governments seem to have no interest in addressing. Papering over the cracks is their method of choice. :::
The money model, best articulated in Russell’s 1998 book, Beyond Ramps: Disability at the End of the Social Contract, posits that disabled people are not, as they are often framed in dominant culture, a “burden to society,” but are actually a valuable resource. As Russell explains: “…persons who do not offer a body which will enhance profitmaking as laborers are used to shore up US capitalism by other means.” Disabled people are a nexus around which the capacity for surplus labor power can be built (often financed in part by federal money)—whole sectors of our economy have sprung forth from the money model, which has normalized the commodification of things, systems, and places that maintain disabled bodies in pursuit of squeezing profit from the money which passes through disabled people towards their survival and care. For example, nursing homes, Russell argued, are not places of rest and comfort, but a strategy for commodifying the “least productive” so that they can both be “made of use to the economic order” and free up the labor supply of those who love and wish to care for them. This system benefits neither the workers nor disabled people, only what Russell called the “owning class.” US disability policy, instead of being oriented around supporting the needs of disabled people, sanctions and facilitates the capitalist capture of nearly all aspects of disablement, impairment, chronic illness, and disability, including the way that “reasonable accommodations” are commodified (as explored by Ruth Colker in her essay for this symposium).
source
- I'd say the same thing happens with the entire structure of disability payments. Instead of simply accepting a letter from your doctor to prove your disability, they've built this insane system of assessors and regular assessments, employing over half a million people (in the UK), to harrass each disabled person every couple of years to decide whether they should still get the means of support necessary to their survival. Reject a large proportion of the claims, so the disabled person has to go through appeals, and tribunals, which create even more jobs.
- Long story short: disabled people do things like community care, inventing things, instead of wasting their time for profit.
uk government are a waste of life
“Muh population decline. We need the population to grow! But also let’s do eugenics and cull people with disabilities! Law of the jungle baby!”
- They only want the population of workers to grow, they want to eradicate all non-workers.
  
  Jobs are becoming more and more selective.
  Nepotism becomes the only way to get a job, it’s just called “networking”
  unemployed people are left to starve to death
  unemployed people = perfectly fine people porky turned his nose up at.
  Austerity is a genocidal tactic
It is kind of shocking to me how the ruling class pretends it doesn't understand what a lucrative business disability has always been and how the service sector around it is one of the remaining things keeping capitalism standing in the West.
- Maybe they do understand and they want in. They're destroying the safety net not to kill but to be the ones depended on, as survival is so much more lucrative as a grift
- I've been kind of thinking the amount of fools in power who do not understand where their value comes from outnumber those who do by a long shot these days. Failsons of failsons of all the old money who were just as evil but at least knew how the game worked. So the result of this is that now all of these lumps think that the money they have was always there and will always be there and they can do whatever they want. Which I guess to be fair has been the case for a long time, but the mammon machine doesn't care and I'm waiting for the day they find out.
Why aren't people having more kids I wonder
Eating food is a waste! When I’m eating I’m not making money, I’m actually spending it! I encourage all UK politicians to consider this shocking revelation and follow the reasoning to its logical conclusion.
"Have you tried 'kill all the poor'?" (cw: csa, ablist slur)
- I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
  yewtu.be
  inv.nadeko.net
  yt.artemislena.eu
  piped.video
Really looking forward to when the UK government takes a look at the costs associated with maintaining the landed gentry.
Where does it specifically mention disabled people? Welfare includes unemployment benefits.
- "Earlier this month, The Telegraph revealed ministers were planning billions in cuts to disability benefits in an attempt to calm market nerves over economic plans.
  The annual cost of support payments for people with disabilities and health conditions is forecast to soar from £22 billion to £35 billion by 2029 – a 60 per cent increase.
  The Chancellor has pledged to stick to Tory plans to cut £3 billion from incapacity benefits by 2028."
  It's literally at the top of the article before the break, and DisabledAceSocialist included a bit of this in the body of their post. I generally recommend reading an article before asking questions about it, in case the question you are asking is answered in the article.
- Quotes from the article:
  *ministers were planning billions in cuts to disability benefits in an attempt to calm market nerves over economic plans.
  The Chancellor has pledged to stick to Tory plans to cut £3 billion from incapacity benefits by 2028.
  Labour must carry out a root-and-branch overhaul of the incapacity benefits system if it is to rein in rising heath-related welfare spending, it added.*
  
  calm market nerves
  “Sorry poors. We need to leave those of you with disabilities for dead. You see, porky’s SCARED and shoveling more subsidies will make him less SCARED and he might finally decide to make jobs despite it going against his interests!”
- Did you even read the article?
- From the article, literally in the top part of it, you don't even have to click to continue reading more:
  The annual cost of support payments for people with disabilities and health conditions is forecast to soar from £22 billion to £35 billion by 2029 – a 60 per cent increase.

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