guns @hexbear.net morte [she/her] @hexbear.net 6 days ago

as it turns out you can not legally own a firearm if youve been involuntarily committed to a mental institution

Bullshit, although yeah i get it i guess but there goes my plans to get strapped. I was going to buy a cute lil handgun in 380 but now i get NOTHING

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You might be interested to know that in many states, black powder guns aren't legally considered firearms. None of the legal hassle that comes from buying a gun, and they tend to be cheaper too. People on parole sometimes get them for self defense. I know it might seem silly of me to suggest a Big Iron, but six shots is better than none.
- I own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
- Interesting loophole though! I have always wanted to be a gunslinger though, maybe thats whats in the cards for me
  
  Some modern ones developed for europe are surprisingly practical. They are only able to exist in their practical form due to loopholes though.
- I assume this doesn't include black powder cartridges? Still not bad though you can go for a cap and ball revolver which gets you 6 shots before you have to take the next 10 minutes to reload.
  
  One shot is all i need baybeeeee
- everybody gangsta til i break the blunderbuss out. and you know i keep that shit loaded. i can drop a ball on an aggressor in 2 minutes flat. try me bitch (just give me a little bit of a headstart tho)
- When the CHUD brownshirts show up at my door, I'm gonna be ready with my blunderbuss! I've gotten my loading procedure down to 2:36 seconds!
Worse for you is that there isn't an enormous black market for guns and shit, abaolutely none
- Yup, cryin shame
  
  you literally can't walk up to a walmart with a teletubby plush toy, there's nothing to be done
Not banned forever though, at least in California, it's a five year ban following a 5150. Also, the ban doesn't apply if the hold was observational or voluntary, i.e. a psychiatrist decided that you needed to be held in a facility and you went along with that decision, rather than being forced by a court, for example.

The federal form 4473 (which you fill out whenever buying a gun through a dealer) also gives some exceptions. If you search "4473 exception for involuntary commitment" you can find more info.

Depending on the details of the particular situation, you may still be able to buy a firearm legally. It could still be worth pursuing.

Edit: my bad, I read your other comments. There are ways to challenge a ban due to an involuntary commitment, but you gotta hit up a lawyer, etc for that.
Involuntarily, like with going through the whole court process and a judge committing you and everything. If you're depressed and cops show up at your door and make you go to the hospital "voluntarily" under threat of being committed, that doesn't count. Even if you stay a while "voluntarily". If you get taken in for a 72 hour "observation" hold (5150) but then the doctors let you free, that doesn't count either. If you didn't have to go to court or at least face a judge, you weren't committed.

I've had a few grippy sock vacations when I was younger but it didn't impact my gun rights.
- Mmmm i believe a court order was issued while i was in the ER. I vaguely remember seeing it and verifying that i was considered involuntary while in the institution
  
  In that case you may just have to get a brace of black powder pistols and start buccaneer-moding. You don't choose the pirate's life. The pirate's life chooses you.
  
  From the ER they can put you on a short hold without court approval, and they don't need to start it until you're medically stable.
  
  The kind that disqualifies you is something you'd remember. You're given a chance to testify.
- Wait so does that mean it doesn't count if a judge signed off without seeing you? I wish there was an easy way to check because when I was a kid the doctor asked if I would go voluntarily and I said no, so they said ok we got a judge to sign off and I said oh ok I guess I'm going... Not sure what the paperwork was so I don't really know what it counts as.
  
  Probably varies by state, but involuntary commitment is a whole legal process with hearings and judges and a right to testify and all that jazz.
  
  You can look up court records to check. Maybe not in your case cause you were a kid, but if you get involuntarily committed as an adult there will be a court record of that.
Or (admitted to having) smoked weed, at least in my state.
- Weed? Whats that? Never heard of it in my life
  
  It's that stuff you grow in your backyard that kills your tomatoes
- That also applies if you get a medical card in my state
80%'s don't require anything other than an address
Check out r/fosscad over on that other website.
- I did and found this:
  
  I need one
  
  Lmao that's incredible.
You can buy a lathe and mill though soooooo~
- going to use the lathe of heaven to make the gun pointed at the head of the universe
- Permanently Deleted
  
  Good luck printing a barrel that'll hold. And if you're ordering all the parts of a gun minus what can be 3d printed it's gonna be pretty obvious what you're doing.
Says in Florida, if youve been baker acted you have to file a court case to get your rights backs damn
Thank you for the heads up.
cough New Hampshire cough
- Also Arizona if that's closer
  
  In a town I know in AZ there is a gunstore that has a massive scrap metal statue of liberty holding an AK-47 in place of the torch in the parking lot, they really do love their guns there
Back ground check?
Air guns can be pretty cool and are basically unregulated. I've got a .22 that shoots over 1000fps.
- How well does that work against chud prepper-tier layered-baking-tray plate?
  
  I would assume not great. It can take down small game so I'd assume it hurts at the least.
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