Trump will give Israel ‘blank check’ which may mean all-out war with Iran, says ex-CIA chief

But thank God we saved Palestine from the evil black lady right? /s

Congratulations, idealists. You definitely stopped the genocide by refusing to vote for Harris and urging others to do likewise. A+ job.

Waiiiiit, are you saying that not voting Kamala didn't magically stop the genocide in Gaza?????

That it only accelerates it, like I and other people have been saying for months????

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING?!

What is fucked is that no matter what happens. They will insist that it was all the Democrat's fault and all the fault of communists and socialists. They will be believed both despite the absurdity of it all and because of the absurdity of it.

May the people in this sub who screeched Genocide Joe and threatened Kamala over her continued support for Israel get the policies they voted for.

Whew! Good thing the moral purity brigade shunned Kamala Harris.

Trump voters: "Trump is the most peaceful president ever. We need to bring the defence spending to Ukraine home. America first".

Trump is elected and inevitably drags the US into yet another war in in the Middle East

Trump voters: Pikachu face

Nah. Just kidding about that last part. It was all just empty rhetoric to justify the grift and looting all the way down as the country burns to the ground in the background.

And these fuckin morons will still say there was no wars under Trump

I heard the "but there won't be any of these wars once Trump is back" argument several times.

I would usually revel in watching the walls come down around someone's stupid opinions, but in this case, we as a country have to suffer for it.

That should put paid to the myth that Trump is 'the antidote to all the wars'.

I always thought that the argument 'no wars were started during his presidency' was bullshit.

It does feel about on-brand for this timeline that Trump of all leaders might get the credit for fixing* the Middle East problem.

• where the problem is the existence of the conflict, and the solution of a glassy wasteland littered with charred skeletons will successfully not have regional conflicts for a thousand years.

crazy to think that trump might do exactly what he said he was going to do. how could we, the voters, have predicted this?

I believe Putin's power over Trump will prevent anyone doing anything extreme about Iran. Russia has always had an interest in controlling Iran and certainly would not approve the US taking it out.

Iran did try and assassinate him, I wouldn't be surprised if he holds a grudge for that.

Don't worry there were no wars under Trump last time and there won't be this time it's that simple 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

Take your bow single-issue voters and protest voters. We tried to warn you.

You did this.

He criticized Trump’s approach to foreign policy, suggesting Trump would be inclined to “capitulate” to authoritarian leaders, which may not sit well with some Republicans.

Don't they even know who they picked to represent them?

"ex official said: this might happen and that might mean" how is this relevant news?

Fucking DUH, god damn.

At some point some people were even saying Harris is worse than the same. For your sanity, I only hope you don't have family in the Middle East.

I would hedge my bets for now. Alternative scenario: The Saudis throw another party for Trump, make some business deals in exchange for reigning in Israel. The House of Al Saud of course doesn't care about Palestinians but their people do and a party and some business is a low price to pay to be celebrated by your subjects.

When it comes to Russia, Trump may realise that Putin way overplayed his hand, but that's balanced by animosity towards Zelensky. OTOH, I mean, business deals. Don't underestimate Ukraine when it comes to being smooth operators. They can sell NASA/SpaceX rocket engines made from Russian war reparations titanium.

Thing is: Trump is highly neurotic and thus, while not necessarily predictable, highly manipulatable if you know what you're doing. Only have to blow the right smoke up his ass.

We didn't get the Bell Riots but maybe we'll get a WWIII.

Still have my fingers crossed for Irish Reunification this year.

Guess were all in on genocides rather than pretending were not enabling it and hoping it sorts itself out, sorry.

I can't convince ~74,000,000 morons to change their mind. ¯\(ツ)/¯

No no guys, Harris was the one that supports the Palestinian genocide, not Trump!

Fucking idiot tankies.

So the same thing as Biden?

The war with Iran is already on the doorstep of happening under Bidens unconditional aid.

Such a shame Kamala did not get elected. Who also promised unconditional aid and advocated for starting a war with Iran.

Posts like this would have a lot more impact if the Democrats were different.

I mean… there can’t be an ongoing genocide if they are all dead taps temple

(God I hate this planet now…)

This is exactly what I was saying months ago. And it's absolutely going to happen now. The entire region is going to plunge into chaotic war, and Putin couldn't be happier.

Somehow the same people who thought they could make the argument of "neither party will stop what is happening in Gaza, so vote based on other issues" don't think israel already had a blank check. Now these same people are gloating as if the people of Gaza deserve to be genocided because the democrats didn't win. It's sick and it's illustrative of what's wrong with the "democratic" party.

For everyone not aware, given everything else that's going on—yes, that's world war

I loathe the comments saying some version of "I hope everyone who didn't vote for Harris gets what they deserve". Dem bullying and refusal to stop 100% support of war crimes (including domestic protest suppression/condemnation) alienated a crucial part of their base, but apparently it's still not their fault. Now there's bitter folks here taking a sick satisfaction telling people they're going to suffer and consoling themselves by viciously insulting everyone who didn't fall in line.

Apparently when the horrors happen it's not because Harris ran a shit campaign courting conservatives, didn't listen, and promised more of the same (or even a slide right) as Biden, a president with an approval rating in the 30-40% range. It's not because she refused to promise an immediate stop to support of war crimes as per America's own laws. It's the fault of everyone who refused to vote against their conscience because a "lesser evil" platform didn't convince them to support a party of unrepentant war criminals.

Downvote me all you want and tell me how idiotic I am. I told people urgently to vote Harris right up until the election, but I also always spoke out against bullying on Lemmy and it's only gotten worse post-election. The people in this thread talking about how others are going to get what they deserve are abusive people and I don't want to be associated with them anyways. Their disapproval is something I'm proud of.

Here's the other side that was "just as bad."

America first

Which is totally nothing like the blank check they currently are getting.

Israel will lose that war.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

ML are like “oh, maybe Joe wasn’t so bad”

Haha, nah, they never cared about genocide.

How would that be different than the current plan under Biden?

Libs still have zero self-awareness. Promoting genocide for months in the most condescending and futile manner... Then continuing to blame everyone else after they inevitably lose yet again.

Seriously Trump is a garbage person who would be easy to beat with Bernie, Michelle, etc. But the libs gotta impose their terrible politics on everyone. Gotta shove their genocide down our throats.

Continuing the legacy of Genocide Joe...

This is how dems and republicans work together to push state ever deeper into fascism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_effect

Oh my goodness, those free Palestine protests are really going to step up in the U.S. !

Just kidding, they’re done, mission accomplished. They were never about Gaza, just about disenfranchising Democrats as part of social engineering to ensure a Trump win.

Let me ask you this, dear concerned protesters: Who was the protest leadership? I don’t mean the local organizer. Who was directing the protests at the national level? I sure as shit don’t know.

God this website is full of liberal idiots

So no real change from Biden or Harris then?