We, Israelis, are calling for global pressure on Israel to force an immediate ceasefire | Open letter
We, Israelis, are calling for global pressure on Israel to force an immediate ceasefire | Open letter
More than 2,000 Israelis have signed this letter, published in 11 languages, asking the international community to use ‘every possible sanction’ to ‘save us from ourselves’
I know all the not-stupids already know it but it bears repeating:
When we say Israel is a shitty genocide committer, we mean the Israeli government--Netanyahu and all his cunty supporters. Not all the normal people who live there who hate the shit as much as anyone else.
It is important to note that the government had majority approval. The settlers annexing the Westbank was continuud by every single government of the past 30 years, even the "progressive" ones. The relentless attacks on Gaza had and have majority approval in polls.
Removing Netanyahu is a first step, but Israeli society seriously needs to work through a lot of things for its "normal" to become in accordance with international law and basic principles of ethics and moral.
This applies to every State vs the people who happen to live in the so-called borders claimed by that State
If only more people in Israel believed this and spoke up the way these people do.
I think you really don't understand Israelis.
They have the exact same problem we have:
A slim majority are professional, want peace, and would probably accept the 48 borders.
But their politics are dominated by the insanely zealous religious right and settlers who want to exterminate everyone who isn't their brand of Judaism, and whose definition of "Greater Israel" goes far beyond the borders of Palestine, as commanded by their god.
Hamas's attack terrified and silenced the majority and left the psychos in charge.
Read the Old Testament, you can see the war between the priest class who believe God wants them to rule everyone, and everyone else who knows they go way too far.
Our Talibangelicals have so much in common with them.
I agree with you on most of what you said. That being said America's problem isn't that the "good" ones are a minority. It's that they are made a minority due to the mechanics and inner workings of the electoral college. If i were to tske this war as example, over 2/3rds of Americans want to enforce a ceasefire. Israel on the other hand, has an actual majority saying this war is good and the Palestinians need to die. My original comment was simply saying that I wish there were more people in Israel willing to speak up and fight back against this. But majority of the protestors are only protesting for the hostages to be back or to stabilize the economy. They don't care about the human rights violations their country does on a daily basis. And why should they? Their entire existence is predicated on it and they benefit from it greatly. These are some of the few protestors actually protesting the right things.
The majority of non Arab Israelis is both in favor of the settler annexations and the slaughter in Gaza.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2024/05/30/israeli-views-of-the-israel-hamas-war/
Unless they’re laying down in front of military vehicles and physically defending against settler violence their words don’t mean much.
There is some who do. Many of them probably signed this lettet. They get violently beaten up. Of course when IDF soldiers beat up visibly practicing Jews thia does not spark outrage over antisemitism in the West. Because Jews being beaten up for their religious convictions is only antisemitism if the attackers are brown.
I hope this is the start of many more such voices.
The Israeli left has been advocating for peace for the last 57 years and losing ground because of it so don't hold your breath.
I hope so too.
With a strong enough swell of support from Israelis, the need to work with Netanyahu to maintain our reputation of standing by our allies and maintaining some leverage over the Israeli government would evaporate. It'd create room for a strong pivot that would still allow us to plausibly threaten Netanyahu with consequences, maintaining his inability to finish his ethnic cleansing goals.
Needs a lot of people though, enough to give some plausible cover to what could otherwise be perceived as a betrayal of an established alliance. We could say we're still standing with the Israelis, though, look, here's their signatures. The rest of them are clearly traumatized and not in their right senses.
I don't think we'd need a majority of their population to sign or anything, but a lot for sure.
F Israel! Their mask of being a democracy is now off and they are worse then some of the mustache man.
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