linux: Goodbye from a Linux community volunteer
linux: Goodbye from a Linux community volunteer
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Yeah it's cutting off the nose to spite the face. Stupid move by the kernel admins. If you're gonna start banning people from contributitg because of shut their government does, then the entire US and Israeli population of Linux devs should be dropped.
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The cold war is reborn and this time it's warmer. Do people not understand that before 30 years ago no communication occured with countries behind the iron curtain. Russia's invasion of Ukraine put us on a path back to those kind of relations.
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Linux leadership: we are running dogs for American empire and will eagerly implement all chauvinisy policies in our "international" open source project. Sure we can insult you and lie and make bigoted comments.
Are you all stoked for major forks? Because this is how you get major forks. Presimably they will start as patches on upstream, but decoupling would be an eventuality.
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With the state of western software development and how ingrained the US and Israeli security state seems to be there, plus how much China seems to be prioritizing top-to-bottom self-sufficiency in tech, I wouldn't be surprised if a Chinese fork that welcomes Russian contributors becomes a force unto itself.
An ecosystem where India, Russia, and China based coders take leadership is an ecosystem that has a bigger chance for mass adoption in the biggest manufacturing economies in the world.
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Stuxnet is just the beginning. Who knows how many hidden programs they're running and building, how many certs and VPNs are compromised, what encryption algos they've cracked, what platforms they have full and instant access to, what critical infrastructure they've rigged to blow, just waiting for a go code...
We won't know for 20 years at least.
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Gonna be doing the "downloading communism" meme a bit sooner than expected irl
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Two comments about this:
- It is my firm belief that 99% of the population of any country ruled by a dictator are the primary victims of that dictator, don't condone what their rulers do, have done nothing wrong and are just trying to be good people in unfavorable circumstances.The Russians are no different and it isn't fair to impose on Russian individuals of obvious good will the treatment governments apply to the Russian government, because the Russian government and the Russian people are two very different things.
- Linus said in this interview:
and here I'm telling you this: Linus acts like a dipshit.I know the Finns very, VERY well, and while they're generally great people, when it comes to Russia and Russians, they have epidermic reactions of totally unreasonable proportions.I understand where they're coming from and why they react like that, but Russia is to the Finnish people what peanuts are to someone with a peanut allergy: the reaction is totally disproportionate and with zero nuances.Don't ever try to argue with a Finn that a Russian person can be good, and that Putin is also their enemy: the Finn will shut down and stop talking to you - meaning, in their culture, that you can politely go fuck yourself.And that's what we're witnessing here with Linus: however many years he's lived in California, he still hasn't shed that part of his upbringing, and quite frankly, shame on him.I'm Finnish. Did you think I'd be supporting Russian aggression?
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Finland were Nazi collaborators and aligned with the Axis. After the Soviets let them do their own thing, they have been trying to create new national myths of how actually they were good people that didn't send thousands of Jews to their deaths. This kind of apologia manifests as Russophobia and the various ahistorical recuperations of WWII omnipresent in Western media.
It is like asking a racist Southerner about the Confederacy. You will hear lost cause apologia. Now imagine if they were their own country writing their own history books and media putsches. Now imagine their narrative was slotted into the historical revisionism of the strongest superpower. That is how you get such racist Finns.
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they were good people that didn't send thousands of Jews to their deaths
I'm not sure how you've counted it but the number for those who were given to the Germans was eight refugees and "some tens" of (Soviet) PoWs. A pretty far cry from the "thousands" you mentioned, but as I said, I'm not sure what you are counting.
For a long time the war and stuff like this was a sore point and the heroic myth overruled everything but since at least for a decade this particular topic has got a lot of public discourse. The heroic myth still lives on though, even if it is milder than it used to be.
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Don't ever try to argue with a Finn that a Russian person can be good, and that Putin is also their enemy: the Finn will shut down and stop talking to you - meaning, in their culture, that you can politely go fuck yourself.
I cracked up reading this. It's not like that these days. Some people are and it used to be worse but things have changed a bunch.
The Russian attack into Ukraine soured things again though. Not that that's an excuse, rather it just happened following that.
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While I agree with you and what I’m about to say is the result of decades of propaganda sadly a massive part of the Russian population fully support putin and believe the bullshit they get fed.
Like I said it makes sense and they are victims of the propaganda but it doesn’t change the fact
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but the key words are "sanctions", "sorry", "nothing I can do"
It seems like it has more to do with the us goverment, still, this is some bs level i havent seen in a while.
Not only they were banned, they removed them from the credits! this is bs.
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https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Russian-Devs
UPDATE: When asked whether Linus Torvalds was under any sort of NDA around this, he responded:
"No, but I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not going to go into the details that I - and other maintainers - were told by lawyers.
I'm also not going to start discussing legal issues with random internet people who I seriously suspect are paid actors and/or have been riled up by them."
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Linus was always really, really stupid politically. It's truly amazing he's outlived the Linux foundation.
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This isn't the end of Linux but it may be the beginning of the end. Right now alarm bells are screaming in China, Russia, India, across the global south about this. They've seen the decades of US sanctions, often arbitrary and other punitive measures including cultural campaigns of exclusion and punishment (remember "freedom fries" after 9/11 because the French wouldn't go along with US adventures in Iraq?) now reaching a fever-pitch. All pretensions of the US to stand for freedom and individual liberty and such have been pushed aside, shoved away by these acts and the blatant hypocrisy of their support of the genocidal zionist state which even now broadens the war of aggression and genocide against Palestinians and Lebanese with full US support and diplomatic cover at the UN.
They see that all that lofty talk from the US was after all a lie. A large number of lies.
Where do we go from here? I fear fragmentation and partition of the world may be inevitable, a new cold war, the internet, software, everything being divided by series of hard and not so hard walls and barriers impeding cooperation, business, trade, cultural exchange, and people to people relations and discussions at an organic grassroots level.
Those in the west will see the freedoms increasingly curtailed, lofty language rolled back behind a large series of ever more expansive "but..." clauses, corporatization of the internet will increase, surveillance, control all justified by the waved wand of hysteria over Russia, China, Iran, muslims, whoever necessitating giving up your privacy, your rights, your freedoms, and of course any right for a dissenting opinion against whoever the current US president is and their administration.
National security in the 90s was used to outlaw export of encryption, to embargo the idea of a secure internet, to push for backdoor chips via the clipper chip in all personal computers. Now it and the same kind of foreign boogeymen are being used to finish that task that they failed at and we are letting them because of jingoism.
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Israel is not expanding the war, it's expanding the occupation.
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Just make a new kernel or something 🤷
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thats a lot of words for contributing for a single year, only half of which was 'volunteer'
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I think he wrote that he had been contributing for about 7 or 8 years, and only the last one was as a volunteer.
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ahhh, this is the line i was referring to.. maybe i misunderstood
my work for the community has been purely volunteer for more than a year now (and less than half of it had been payable before that).
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