@afgmeh "The prolific Iranian incel activist Icyshah once argued that Iran was a discriminatory matriarchy because his law school class was almost all women and he was still not able to get a wife."
I read a thing once about how most “matriarchal” societies encountered were just societies with some amount (even marginally) of less discrimination to women and therefore had to be run by women in the eyes of colonisers.
Post the thing when you remember the thing because sane history & anthropology is scarce in some parts
I can at least attest to it from second hand stuff told to me when I was out on the reservation. There is still plenty of misogyny and rigid gender norms but the women elders have a sort of veto power in the tribal councils or at least traditionally. The men all, for example decide on weather to make war or some other consequential thing and then the women are allowed to be like "no that's dumb wtf is wrong with you" if they all agree to.
Boys go to Jupiter
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Well, yeah, at least at some points Iran has, in some ways, had very good education for women. Jobs? Problems there. But higher education they've been pretty good at times. Dunno where things stand now. It's an important component in understanding Islamic feminisms and how they differ from western feminisims.
Well yeah of course they do they're a feminist globohomo matriarchy which forcibly transitions cis gay men (who are highly reactionary, read Cockshott)
Cockshott
Cock shot? Uh yeah, I sure hope it has.
what is "Islamic feminism" and "western feminism"? i'm sorry, but "western feminism" sounds like a term used by reactionaries
It's shaped like itself. Feminisms that developed in the west - British Feminism, Intersectional Feminism, 1st/2nd/3rd/4th wave, and then Feminisms that developed in the Islamic world which I know far less about. There isn't one feminism, it's a whole constellation of related ideologies and philosophies that share some features but are strongly opposed on others. And it's not just Islam and NATOstan, there's a lot of others, both contemporary and in the past. Presumably the future too.
But looking in to Feminism in Iran is a good start for sort of getting a look at it. There's a couple of different strains of Iranian feminism in Iran that are sometimes in dialogue and sometimes in Conflict with western Feminism. Also a good look about how The West uses Feminism in bad faith as a weapon against global south nations or whatever we're calling Not!Natostan right now. NATOstan doesn't recognize non-western forms of Feminism as valid, or just ignores them so it can misuse western Feminist concepts to attack enemy nations and cultures. Feminist Imperialism as a counterpart to Rainbow Imperialism. We saw it a lot in Afghanistan where America used a veneer of Feminism to justify it's invasion and occupation. There was no actual interest in Feminism or serious attempt to improve the conditions of women, but it gave the warlords in washington a way to white wash (femme wash?) their project with their populations. Like, they hold Malala Yousafzai up as evidence that their enemies are evil and NATO is actually good and doing good Feminism, then drop her like a live hand grenade when they find out she's a communist (Hi Malala go on Chapo but unironically!) (I don't know if she posts here she probably doesn't)
Another example of Feminist (and again not "real" feminism, just NATO's bad faith version of it) is weaponized against Muslims living in NATOstan, with France and other European countries making it a crime to cover your hair in the name of women's rights or whatever bullshit they claim, when it's really flagrantly obvious seething race hatred.
It's a term used as much by genuine progressives as it is by reactionaries IMO (for instance in critiques of white feminism, imperialist feminism and western pinkwashing, etc). There is a genuine larger world of feminists (and other progressives) out there who have serious bones to pick with the western portrayal of itself as the end-goal and arbiter of progress..
There's Islamic feminism, indigenous feminism, black feminism, communist feminism, etc. Even western feminism (and "feminism") has its serious divisions and many outright wreckers/appropriaters tbh.
idk about saudi arabia but in iran imo it's because a. education is universal and either free or cheap so everyone can study b. men are pressured to drop out and start working sooner in order to provide/save money and c. women are pressured to continue studying otherwise they would have to marry someone sooner.
I hoped to never read the words "prolific Iranian incel activist"
The West is a matriarchy because no woman touch my pp.
They're working on that, no worries (but actually)