Elon Musk seen as working counter to U.S. interests in dealings with Russia, China
Elon Musk seen as working counter to U.S. interests in dealings with Russia, China
Elon Musk's financial interests put him in a position of having his own personal foreign policy, but new reporting shows that whether it's manufacturing in China or the Starlink network being used in Ukraine, Musk’s decisions can run counter to stated US policy.
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This is why billionaires shouldn't exist they are treasonous
They should exist, but we are not utilizing them correctly. Once someone has reached a billion dollar networth then they are thrown a big party and then sacrificed to a valcono. I believe this would curb emissions and fix climate change.
There was a native American tribe that every ten years had individuals return all personal wealth back to the tribe and the threw a big party, then start it all over again
Maybe we just seize all their assets, nationalize them and make them start over with nothing. Call it new game +.
They just need to make a point system. The incredibly wealthy don't care about money itself, those are already just points to them. So once you get to say 100 M, you get a trophy saying you won capitalism. After that amount 99% is taxed, you get a penny on the dollar. But all of that taxed money gets you Capitalism points. Capitalism points have no real value and can only be exchanged/traded/gambled with other winners of capitalism. Those with most points will be published each month in the top 100. And the top 10 each year get the prestigous title if honorary economic leader. They can get a medal and a pat on the back by the president.
You can also donate extra money for more capitalism points at a 10:1 exchange rate to get people to play the game even harder and further drive down wealth.
(I believe there are slightly less than 10,000 people in the US who would currently get their capitalism trophy. There are >140,000 people worth more than $50M, is 100 to high?)
Oh and the 100M amount is pegged to minimum wage. Any increase to the capitalism cap has to be matched to the same percent increase to minimum wage.
But volcano!
I agree, I like the volcano idea.
That was awesome. Thank you for making my day!
Wealth Piñata monetary policy
Polluting a volcano with a bag of shit isn't really green. I say we just bury them so they can at least be used as fertilizer.
You know what volcano is, right?
Just too much power for one person. Even if they're not in charge of a global internet provider, your average billionaire can singlehandedly affect the lives of millions of people (employees, customers, bystanders) with no democratic oversight at all. It's just not something that should exist.
China seems to do a pretty good job of keeping their billionaires in check. Maybe we should take notes?
You: Want to abolish billionaires because they do not support the war enough.
Me: Want to abolish billionaires because they exploit and oppress the working class.
We are not the same.
I want to abolish them because of both - checkmate
Patsoc detected.
Please enlighten me what a Patsoc is - I am really curious.
"Patriotic socialist", someone who claims to be a champion of the working class, but is actually more of nationalist. They only care about the working class of a certain nationality or racial group, and are generally bigoted in their view towards marginalized groups. Real socialists are internationalist. You wanting to get rid of Musk, because he's not sufficiently gung-ho about a war fought between capitalists on the back of workers, implies you consider the national interest more important than the lives of workers. This is anti-worker class collaborator shit, which is what patsocs are really.
What the fuck are you even talking about? Russia is throwing thousands of „working class“ lives away, since it wants to expand its territory in aggressive moves since decades. They are forcing Ukraine to defend itself and yes, those are also working class people.
So you, as a good socialist, are probably on the barricades because of this unprovoked attack on the Ukrainian working class. How are you fighting to defend them from getting killed? Please don’t answer something in the likes of „Ukraine should give up“ because then everyone would only see that you are actually advocating the Murder of the Ukrainian people.
Lol what the fuck is this? "You're an enemy of the working class because you don't support Elon Musk!"
This is some brain worm shit my dude.
Apt username
I chose it so you could jerk yourself off about it and feel good at least once in your life :)
Well you've jumped to conclusions there, I'm not talking about the war but Billionaires in general and their respective countries in general.
Billionaires have too much power, live outside the existing system of government and laws, gained their money and power through exploitation and in general are undemocratic.
So I agree with your second statement, but not the first
Meanwhile, until he was supporting USA and Ukraine, he was the good white hero for your ilk.
Meanwhile, until he was supporting USA and Ukraine, he was the good white hero for your ilk.
Yeah, because of that. This isn't the gotcha you think it is, you aren't uncovering a double standard. People deem helping Ukraine righteous, and helping Russia treasonous, this is no secret.
People deem helping Ukraine righteous, and helping Russia treasonous, this is no secret.
Only Anglo people and white worshippers. The rest of the world has over 6 billion people, that you conveniently choose to disrespect and ignore.
What does this race bait have to do with Elon Musk?
It has to. You generalised that all people hate Russia and love Ukraine. A lot of the world is NOT what you imply to be the whole world, and is a mere 10-15% of the world's population. Rest of the world fears the Nazi disease brewing in Ukraine, having the potential to travel around to Asia and Middle East. We do not want America-funded Mujahideen clones. Russia is helping us.
Russia invaded Ukraine. You know.. like the Nazis did in WW2.
Russia is playing the part of the Nazis.
Then why do Ukrainian Nazis paint blood swastikas on the chests of Russian women they kill? https://youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc
If your definition of Nazism is "invading", then USA seems to be correctly the biggest Reich empire on earth. Good, coherent logic! Maybe we can agree on something.
Russia is historically and culturally the most anti-Nazi country in the world, and by law, Nazism is fully outlawed there, unlike Ukraine, where Stepan Bandera is worshipped and there are monuments for these Nazis. https://forward.com/news/462916/nazi-collaborator-monuments-in-ukraine/ Can you show me shit like this in Russia?
Oh, wait, I am not done with you just yet. For people like you...
Wait, and how exactly are any Ukrainians on Russian territory in order to paint blood swastikas on their women after killing them? They are defending their country, meaning they stay mainly in their country. Most haven't had set foot in Russia since the start of the war. So what are the Russian women doing in Ukraine?
You know, this sounds a lot like Russian propaganda trying to make Ukrainians seem like fascists while they are not the ones invading sovereign nations.
Their leader is a Jew, you know that right?
So even if what you say were true, do you think it would have happened if Russia didn't illegally invade a sovereign nation?
Tankie's gonna tankie. This guy thinks he's uncovered some ultimate hypocrisy which justifies Russia's invasion. Like, America has neo-Nazi's, therefore, it's totally chill for Russia to use boxcutters to emasculate POWs (war crime), or execute civilians (war crime), or rape (war crime) civilians, or deport Ukrainian children to Russia (war crime).
Do you know the demographics of DPR and LPR, which is eastern Ukraine? They are full of ethnic Russians, the very people that Ukrainian Nazis have been oppressing and murdering since 2014. Ukraine was part of USSR, in case someone as illiterate as you did not know. You know, Russia was many countries before, so there are many Russians around the country of Russia. I know, hard to understand.
Last I heard, Zelensky is a Zionist. Zionists are not the same as Jews. I think you support Israel and Nazism, which may be a perfect combination for your western ideology. You are parroting pro NATO bullshit with nothing backing it up.
Edit: nevermind, that bullshit map you shared in other comment means you specifically came to hunt my comment history to reply me, and to spread pro NATO propaganda. Go to reddit.
Here in the rest of the world we fear the brewing nazi diseases, and how Russia is already a country that is fully infected, whatever they bullshit on paper about nazis.
Your comment is bullshit and your Finnish pro-NATO/Anglo allegiance is very apparent. Your history is also very telling about exactly how much you hate communism. Tell your country to distance away from NATO before you spout any nonsense about Russia.
Oof, tell me you're a shitty comment stalker without telling me you're a shitty comment stalker.
Errors in every sentence, tsk tsk. But as I see here in the other comments, it seems to be on purpose.
Redditor level of humour and intelligence is unappreciated on Lemmy. Take it back to that circlejerk spez platform.
well 141 of 193 countries think that Russia is the aggressor and shall stop its war immediately:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/united-nations-russia-ukraine-vote
I am too lazy to check how much of the world’s population that accounts for - but it is hardly the 10-15 percent you have brought up
ps: there were only 5 votes against this resolution - Russia being one of… North Korea as well
I saw 95 and not 141 countries for some reason, with India and China abstaining from vote as well. I wonder why is that the case.
I also wonder why, until the above document you shared, this used to be the voting norm for the past 20 years (until 2022), and why only 2 Nazi countries used to oppose the vote:
Yeah, not really going to trust "RussianUN" on what the approval rating is on their own country.
Russia is blasting full on propaganda on all sides.
Got any actual trustworthy sources of your claims?
You really prove westerners live in a mind control dictatorship. You just claimed you do not trust United Nations. This is gold.
westerners have no brain (proved) (certified)
141 of 193 countries is not 10-15% of the worlds population
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/united-nations-russia-ukraine-vote
No I didn't, I didn't ignore anyone. I am answering your statement. We are talking in the context of whom was considering him a "good white hero". As per your statement:
he was the good white hero for your ilk.
I'm not going to specify the whole context of the conversation when it's clear whom I'm talking about. You established the group of people that worshipped him in your original comment, I explained why.
People deem helping Ukraine righteous, and helping Russia treasonous, this is no secret.
Oh you did ignore over 6 billion people that condemn Ukraine's Nazism issues on the UN voting, and their support for Russia. Anglosphere consists of merely ~12% of the world's population, and their Russia bashing undemocratic stance is NOT representative of what the whole world thinks. What white people think or say is not that important.
You seem to not understand how context in a conversation works. Look, The original comment said the following in a post about how Elon is acting agaisnt US interest:
This is why billionaires shouldn’t exist they are treasonous
So they are probably american. Then you answered them with:
he was the good white hero for your ilk.
Then I said the following, to you, after your comment:
People deem helping Ukraine righteous, and helping Russia treasonous, this is no secret.
In this context, "People" can mean everybody, yes, but can also mean the subset of people we are talking about already, which I obviously was mentioning. I don't really get why you are being so confrontational because I didn't include the opinion of everybody in the world when trying to explain why americans or the west now think that Elon is a traitor.
Let me give you an example in good faith. When there's a meeting between neighbours, they vote on X, and the president of the community states "The people have talked", are they also ignoring the other 8 billion people that exist in the world? No, because it's obvious that "pople" in that context refers to the subset of people only referring to the neighbours.
I really can't explain to you more how context works, if you are that hellbent in chastisizing me for explaining to you why "those people" think like that in general, we have nothing more to talk about.
My ilk?
You're jumping to conclusions.
Billionaires are treasonous because they live outside the laws of their country, hold power over the government there and gain their money through exploitation
Were you opposing Musk and billionaires since forever, or are you one of the fresh new liberal "converts" that hate Musk just because he shat upon the toilet of the town square?
Yes since forever, they've always been a problem for the same reasons I mentioned above, same story with oligarchs.
I don't care about Musk, I feel the same way about Bezos, Gates and whomever else
I am usually skeptical of people calling out on posts with such polarised headlines and hypocritical standard. My bad, perhaps you are not one of those people.
We live in a society
What society? There is no one society. Anglo countries clearly are not one society with rest of the world, comprising of over 6 billion people.
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Your trolling is considered a sign of inability to generate coherent, logical arguments.
Why are you talking to yourself?
Quit spewing the narrative that only few people know that Russia is the Aggressor - most of the world thinks so: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/02/united-nations-russia-ukraine-vote
We can start with this aggression, then. The breakage of Warsaw Pact.
You mean all those countries that volunteraly joined NATO because they were too afraid of Russian invasions?
Here is a map of which countries Russia has invaded: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fz6ae62j6ph821.png
You think a Russian shill/Tankie is gonna give a shit about facts?
His only job here is to try to confuse the narrative by spewing lots of noise.
