I just got dumped by someone who is really into astrology, so I just wanted to say...

I remember a girl I like getting told by her best friend that she shouldn't date me because was a Sagittarius and I was a Cancer

Jokes on her, in the Chinese Zodiac, I'm a Metal Dragon, which means I possess the qualities of an Emperor

Point being, I'm high as shit too

I personally think astrology is destructive to the people who take part in it. I see a lot of arguments along the lines of, “people have fun with it and it gives them comfort” etc. and if that’s all it was, that would be fine, but anyone who’s met someone really into astrology can see that it primes people to apply a totally illogical and incoherent framework to problems in their lives. The problem with that is that you’re never going to grow and learn as a person if you continually grab for this totally illogical tool in your emotional toolbelt every time one of life’s challenges arises. You’ll never reflect on the emotional genesis of a lot of your feelings or responses to the world if you just think, “I did that because I’m a Leo” or whatever. You’ll never get to, “I realize now that I responded to x situation negatively because y factor happens to be a trigger for me and I need to be conscious of that in the future” if you never get past “I responded to x situation negatively because mercury is in retrograde.” Overall I think it’s a toxic trend in our society that prevents people from being able to grow in a healthy way.

as a gothy lesbian who cannot stand astrology let me just say i feel your pain

so, so much

Uranus is in retrograde

Whenever people tell me something about astrology (implying they believe in it) I can't help but start thinking in a societally critical descriptive way. Like Disco Elysium describes social phenomena or Modernists in general.

"Astrology is the belief that someone's personality, habits, and even fate are written in the stars when they are born, and their relationships between each other depend on which of 12 calendar periods they were born in. These correspond to the star shapes present in the plane of the sun as it moves around the earth according to an influential Greek that popularized the idea. When we learned that the earth actually orbited the sun, very little changed in astrology. While astrology has historically been a very complex topic, the modern Western version is mostly about advice columns from unaccredited hacks and explaining problems in romantic relationships. The person I am talking to is trying to socialize with me through their appreciation of astrology but I'm just trying to get them to come to a meeting organized by communists."

Birth Month Race Science

Bruh, those downtimes where I worked as a barista and we were getting like 1 customer an hour, it's all my coworkers would talk about as we swept the damn floor. Fucking horoscopes and shit. So cringe.

This is so Gemini of you. And let me guess, you were dating a Virgo

Reject astrology, embrace astronomy 🔭

I feel like it was used as a cop out for transphobia with lesbians Ive interacted with. Just say some woo shit to hide your bigotry, like sure Jan I'm certain the reason you wrinkle your nose at a whole room of trans people is because Mercury was in retrograde

I pretty much think anyone that takes it seriously is going to need to be hardcore reeducated. At least they're not cutting open animals to find where the poop is in their intestines to see if they'll be lucky today anymore.

It is stupid, but lots of hobbies are stupid.

What takes it over the top is when people start making actual life decisions based on what they read about "Aires and Gemini relationships" or whatever.

I have an ex whose grandmother would literally call her in the middle of the night to opine on how she should leave me and find a man who better matches her astrology shit. And what could have been a humorous laugh about batty ol' grandma turned into me chuckling while she sternly stared at me until I said "... you're... not really listening to that dumb shit, right?"

Well, that was many years ago, grandma is long dead, and uh, I dunno, maybe the sun knew something. Or maybe she was just using it as an excuse to make hard decisions. Who knows.

I still don't understand anything about organic soap or astrology though. So, maybe she was also right with the whole "you never listen to me" thing. Listening to someone go on about the stars and moon and shit and how it has mystical powers is probably exactly how my mom felt when I was a kid explaining to her how I made gold in RuneScape. Just smile and nod along. Retain nothing. I did try to retain stuff, I really did, but I guess my brain just isn't built for that shit. But I describe in painful detail every boss fight from a raid I did 20 years ago... Brains. How do they work?

Sorry comrade. I hope that you're better off without them and find someone better for you.

(aside, fuck astrology) ( I legitimately would not date someone who's into astrology, I can't fuck with someone that unmoored from reality. Especially when inability to discern material realities is a liability that can get people killed. None of the people I know into astrology are taking covid seriously anymore, they're so used to magical thinking that they just can't look at the science to defend themselves against the capitalist gaslighting even though they're principled leftists)

Full throated support from me in your loathing of astrology. Apparently everyone who is a cancer sign is an abomination in the eyes of astrologists and it's the most annoying bullshit ever. Fuck astrology.

Busting out the old gravity magic abd being like "actually, thanks to General Radhann, fate is not written in the stars.

i feel you about astrology OP. my girlfriend is super into it and i never say anything but it’s something i can not buy into and its not that i find it or her annoying but that its just such obvious bullshit. especially because many people believe in it in place of religion when it’s the same made up stuff lol

How does astrology explain two different people with the same birthday having radically different personalities and traits?

Sucks, but in the final analysis sounds like you dodged a bullet. I’ll have a drink for you tonight 🍻

Typical Sagittarius.

Astrology is bullshit, but every time I see the topic brought up I feel compelled to look up stereotypes for my star skull shape for an hour or two to see how accurately it describes me.

I thought I had nothing in common with astrologoids but then I learned that costar is apparently written in haskell

on a daily basis, shit is in retrograde from my ass

I remember when astrology was a legit struggle session on this site, lol. Looking at the responses to this post, it seems times have changed quite a bit.

I think astrology is fine in moderation for fun. Like anything, some people will always go too far with it.

It seems alright for self reflection, but astrophrenology is weird.

Imagine believing a bunch of balls of gas millions of light years away was arranged by a bunch of people who said "these dots in the sky look like pictures" (when they definitely didn't), and thinking they have an effect on our personalities lmao

Astrology is bunk pseudoscience but chinese zodiac is real

Tigers are scum

How did I augur that this thread would get long?

You know what's cooler than astrology? Ancient cults. I mean the kind of thing where a group or city state has a patron god/goddess and then they steal and subjugate the gods/goddesses of others. I don't really believe in this stuff of course, but I just think it would be kinda cool to have a mascot to rally around and give us the courage we need to smite our enemies. Like, imagine if we had a cult based around Artimpasa or Inanna and then offered up transphobes, chuds, megachurch pastors, etc. to her as a blood sacrifice. That would be way more cool and useful than some astrology nonsense, and if I ever met another trans girl who was ready to brutally slay our enemies and fill the streets with rivers of their blood in order to bring honor to our goddess/cult, I'd totally be

How brave of you to say this now that you won't have to deal with consequences for it.

Staying in a relationship where you have to bite your tongue about something important to your partner is doomed to fail, regardless of how valid their beliefs are. I think this is a great learning opportunity for you to consider what are deal breakers in a potential partner. Opposites can attract, but only if you respect each other.

Nah, I get you are upset but this isn't the way brother. Is astrology bullshit? Yes. However it is women's bullshit and we never let them have anything nice. It is our job to protect it until they get bored of it and move on. It's gets people intrested in the stars and the universe. It makes them feel happy and more secure.