My little brother loves the dualboot setup I installed for him. He says "It's like iOS"
My brother is 12 and just like other people of his age he can't use a computer properly because he is only familiar with mobile devices and dumbed-down computers
I recently dual-booted Fedora KDE and Windows 10 on his laptop. Showed him Discovery and told him, "This is the app store. Everything you'll ever need is here, and if you can't find something just tell me and I'll add it there". I also set up bottles telling him "Your non-steam games are here". He installed Steam and other apps himself
I guess he is a better Linux user than Linus Sebastian since he installed Steam without breaking his OS...
The tech support questions and stuff like "Can you install this for me?" or "Is this a virus?" dropped to zero. He only asks me things like "What was the name of PowerPoint for Linux" once in a while
After a week I have hardly ever seen my brother use Windows. He says Fedora is "like iOS" and he absolutely loved it
I use Arch and he keeps telling me "Why are you doing that nerdy terminal stuff just use Fedora". He also keeps explaining to me why Fedora better than my "nerd OS"
My older sibling did something similar - getting Ubuntu installed on my very first laptop (a 9" netbook) back in 2008 and replacing windows XP. But be warned: it is a slippery slope. At the time , I just wanted a computer that I could take class notes on (high school), and never wanted to touch programming or the terminal. Now I have a PhD in computer science. I still don't use Arch though.
My kids have been gaming all day on Steam. They have zero intellectual curiosity about the system they are using. They have been using Arch for years but it might as well be a console or Mac. They log in and launch a web browser, Steam or a Minecraft launcher and that is it. It makes me a bit sad.
That is a legitimate question. I still don't fully understand people's obsession about terminal. It's 2023, we should be able to do everything comfortably using GUI rather than type everything, remembering all the commands, parameters, paths, permissions etc.
An amazing story! I doubt I ever have kids, but if I do I'll do something like this. God knows what sort of dumbed down tech crap they'll be fed in school.
maybe unpopular opinion here but while it was user error, Linus breaking the OS by installing steam is something that should have never been possible, anyways glad to hear your brother is learning Linux!
That's amazing and encouraging, I want to hear more stories like this because when my kid grows up I plan on trying to guide him into not being tech illiterate, so far my plan is (more or less, but not exactly) to start him with a crappy but usable computer and give him upgrades he has to work for or tinker for, I feel like I learned the most by trying to squeeze performance and usability out of outdated hardware.
I don't intend to make him have my passion for computers, my intention is that he'll have the initiative to Google problems and the curiosity to solve them when it's not that easy, just having those two can get you 80%-90% there.
As someone who is interested in starting into the world of linux, was having a second hard drive necessary for creating a dual boot system or were you able to do it all on one hard drive?
My 11 year old brother had been using PopOS for a while. Unfortunately Roblox recently intentionally broke Wine support and I had to put Windows on his computer.
I had the same thought process seeing the software repository on Linux Mint for the first time. It really is set up like a MacOS or general Appstore interface.
Happy for your brother getting comfortable with Linux so quickly! Way to go!
I mean, the outcome speaks for itself. Although I would likely have gone for Gnome instead of KDE for somebody who is completely new to Linux and not exactly techy. I use KDE myself, but I have to say that the out-of-the-box look and feel of Gnome is a lot more polished.
At home, my parents are forced to use Windows and macOS because of their work, but all the machines at home are either Linux or a Linux/Windows dual-boot. The mobile phones run LineageOS. I haven't succeeded with my little brother, who's the only one with an iPhone.
Everyone's happy, and when there's a problem (which happens quite rarely), I'm asked, and it's solved in seconds. Most of the time, no one misses proprietary applications, and everyone's surprised that everything's free, hahaha.
Windows really screwed itself over with how it handled its integrated app store. By making it Microsoft-owned and moderated with a bunch of caveats on the format (compared to most Linux package repositories) you ended up with shit like FOSS apps being repackaged and sold for money, low quality ports of apps, and a bunch of bullshit that made people avoid it like the plague.
Linux for its faults with how package management works is far superior to even MacOS when it comes to finding free or low cost software. You get 80% of your apps available thanks to flatpaks and new apps can be uploaded with very little hassle compared to even iOS or Android. No fees, no lengthy review process (which could be a disadvantage arguably) and software is much restricted by the platform host.
While GenZ/A may be known for being bad with computers, I think it might just be a sign that Windows is so outdated and poorly designed that people coming from better-designed platforms are confused at shit older folk just put up with for decades.
My 3 year old daughter has a 2010 MacBook running AntiX.
She knows how to boot it, press Enter on the dual-boot screen, and is getting close to being able to select Stardew Valley from the app menu.
She also enjoys playing GCompris.
I have used Linux for a while and transitioned the wife and kids to Linux Mint a couple years ago.
They know it is different than Windows but never miss anything as the alternatives are as good or better. The kids are used to mobile and tablets so know of app store and so on. The only downside is getting some games their friends play working, like Roblox. But for the most part alternatives like Minetest are fine (better).
The upside is IMHO massive in terms of privacy, security, user friendless and sysadm stuff.
Do you think I would have a similar experience if I got my 70 year old mother to install Linux? She's on the other side of the country, but she's always asking me questions about Windows 11 and breaking things. I have never even used Windows 11, so my capacity to help her isn't great, especially since we haven't been able to get Remote Desktop working since she switched from 10 to 11.
I love Fedora. It was my OS of preference 20y ago. Now I am old and use Debian. Arch was a very shortlived adventure in a transitional period that I felt tired of keep breaking all my OSs out of boredom.
Su Linux is most likely the answer to lering younger people to use computers fedora is especially good becouse it has a nice package manager (dnf) that is easy to understand
This is great lol. When my friend tried Linux Mint he had to go into the terminal to install Brave, as they don't just provide a .DEB like other browsers do. Maybe I should recommend Fedora to him as well.
Just try it with my brother. He plays a LOT of EAC-protected titles and somehow loves Wilndows 11. I tried convincing him to the penguin distros, but he's very anti-penguin as in anti-Linux. At least I told him how to speed up Windows and he agreed, so I ran a debloat tool from CTT. But at least I convinced my grandma to switch to Linux Mint.