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Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

www.businessinsider.com Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

The Foreign Ministry will be offering three-month visas as early as next month, Russian state media said.

Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

Putin has signed a decree that Russia will welcome foreigners who want to escape Western liberal ideals.
Applicants may include those from countries unaligned with "Russian spiritual and moral values."
The application process has been simplified, and visas will be issued as soon as next month.

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Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

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Putin has decided that Russia is going to be a 'safe haven' for people who want to trade liberal Western ways for Russian 'moral values'

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Huh, is the meat grinder not getting enough?
- Probably also a massive brain drain to boot.
  
  Yeah, I don't think this will help very much with that particular issue...
  
  I have bad news for them if they think accepting people running from "Western liberal ideals" is going to help with that somehow.
- Probably. "Come to Russia! Is safe place! Is not place with liberals! What? No, we don't need bodies for military! No conscription of foreigners here!"
  
  Fast and easy to get citizenship!
- “If it works for Isis, surely this will work for me.”
  Odd thing is, he might not be far off. He could try to sell some incels on hot single Russian women whose men have all died in 60 year old tanks. Also maybe some gravy seals might be willing to sign up. Maybe when Trump loses he’ll move there followed by some of his MAGA cult, and they’ll be this English speaking enclave in Russia somewhere. Could be the premise for a sci-fi tv show.
  
  I mean, most of them want a strong man dictator type anyway!

As a western liberal, I would feel so owned if conservatives started heading over to Russia en masse. Just the thought of not being able to convert their children into Satanic, transgender bisexuals and forcing abortions on them makes me want to puke. Please stay, stop, don’t go.
- I get your point, but if anyone goes over there, they're bringing their underage children, and those children will likely suffer. So, I'd rather them stay and be safe than be right and have them suffer. I don't wish ill on those hateful people, for the most part, I wish them a clear view of the social, political, and economic landscapes.
  Now, the people who intentionally hatemonger for profit, like Alex Jones, I would not be sad if they met an untimely fate.
  
  Spoon in underwear at the airport, kids, if you think your parents might be trafficking you to another country and you don't want to go.
  
  This is also just an attempt to shore up demographics after losing THOUSANDS of men against Ukraine, and a good chunk of Russian nationals simply fleeing the country to avoid conscription. So you don't get a nice apartment in Moscow or St Petersburg, you get a little hovel out in Siberia and all the farmland you could want.
  
  Conservatives grew up loving western liberalism and were later told to hate it. Kids brought over there will flip flop and rebel just like their parents did.
- I'm reminded of Obama winning the 2012 election and a bunch of troll conservatives bombarding the "We The People" petition website with requests to secede from the country
- I would cry rivers of proverbial progressive tears if every single repugnicunt took pooty poot up on his offer.

Go Republicans. Go to the land of *true freedom!
*
^^^true ^^^freedom ^^^not ^^^guaranteed ^^^nether ^^^is ^^^food, ^^^goods, ^^^and ^^^conscription ^^^highly ^^^likely. ^^^Visas ^^^surrendered ^^^apon ^^^entry ^^^and ^^^use ^^^as ^^^a ^^^bargaining ^^^chip ^^^for ^^^Russian ^^^spies ^^^guaranteed.
- Dang, that reads like a commercial for pharmaceuticals.
  
  Ask your propagandist if Copium is for you...

On arrival, you will be provided with a military uniform with minimal bloodstains, a rifle from WW2 that may or may not work, and free transportation to the beautiful Russian countryside of Kursk.
- And if you don't like Kursk there are free accommodations at the Gulags.

About to be a bunch of confused conservatives showing up in Kursk with a few bullets and no training?
- Who quickly realise that hunting deer isn't a proper way to prepare for modern combat.
  
  My deer shoot back, don't yours?
  
  And who have just relocated their best hostages to within Putin's power. Yes, bring your nine children and wife along to Russia--now stay in rank on the front line, or maybe your oldest gets to come serve in your place (earlier than they would have anyway)!
- One gets the rifle, the other gets the spare mag.
  
  The man with the gun shoots the gun.
  The man without a gun finds a gun.

Wouldn't this be the equivalent to like...

Yes, please take them all.

Let's use trump's plane to start the maga transfer to Russia.
- Epstein's plane https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-trump-flew-to-campaign-events-on-jeffrey-epstein-s-plane-last-weekend/ar-AA1oG9fh 🙂
- If he doesn’t win in November, he’ll probably arrange that himself.

Sounds like Russia is running low on cannon fodder

I'll buy them plane tickets if they need help getting the hell out of my country
- Would be great if some of them ended up in the Russian Gulag
  
  They're going to end up on the front lines
- At first I was going to say "сука бля, nyet, we have enough shitheads already". But then I realized that they would honestly just fit right in. So you have yourself a deal... as long as you could also find a safe place for Snowden - the dude does not deserve to be in this hellhole.

ALL MAGA. TAKE THEM ALL. JUST A CONVEYOR BELT FEED SYSTEM ACROSS THE OCEAN.
- I would donate a hundred bucks to a fund that offered free transport to any repugnicunt that couldn't afford to go but wanted.

russia is not conservative at all, but it is a fascist police state without 1st, 2nd, in fact all amendments I've checked up to the 10th, so they're going to love it, I guess.
- Shhh, They THINK Putin's Russia is a conservative utopia so don't crush their dreams.
  
  But they have bread...and shopping carts!
- Well, most countries aren't going to have the same constitutional rights as the USA has. In the same way, the US doesn't give their citizens the same rights as those in other countries receive. As such, I'm not sure if there's too much point comparing the two.
  Otherwise. Yes, it's not going to be a nice place to live, and anyone that chooses this option has only themselves to blame when they realise they made a deal with the leopard that has a history of biting faces off.
  
  https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/conservative-family-disappointed-moving-russia-001517915.html
  Also wtf is this ad
  
  My comment was about the irony them "escaping" to have freedom of speech, gun freedom and trial by jury of their peers to a country that has none of those, not being a bad place to live. It's not about "other countries". Other countries can do whatever they want.
  (yea, I think I commented in the wrong thread, this was meant to go on the other one where magats ponder moving to russia)
  
  the US doesn't give their citizens the same rights as those in other countries receive.
  The U.S. doesn't give their citizens the same rights that the U.S. constitution has.
- Their Facebook feeds will be absolutely hilarious.
  "They aren't respecting my second amendment rights!!" As they live in a completely different country...

This feels like a win for everyone.
- Bad for Ukraine; they could run out of drones.

You can have 'em!
The reality is Putin is attempting two genocides, one in Ukraine and one in Russia. He has purged undesireables from liberals and independent media to the LGBTQ+ community, ethnic minorities, political opposition, boisterous oligarchs, prisoners, and so forth... He and his Rasputin, Aleksandr Dugin, believe they can create a stronger Russia by making it a more pure one. But good luck with that lol.
Putin be like, "Watch me speed-run becoming North Korea, stuck in the past and global pariah."

In other words...."We're running out of cannon fodder"
- I'm guessing it's more of a propaganda thing. I'd be shocked if he's hoping to net enough people for significant extra "мясо пушки", given that this sounds like it only applies to Western countries.
  
  Agreed, but I think it's more than that
  I don't think he's offering them plane tickets. That means they have enough wealth to move there - it would instantly be a shot in the arm for the Russian economy. They'd get a captive market, and he's not even inviting them to be Russian
  That selector also means they're more likely to have useful skills, and the messaging is targeting people very susceptible to Russia style propaganda - he could censor their connection to the outside world, and they'd thank him for it
  Also, if NATO arms hit American civilians, that would be a powerful message to reduce international support for Ukraine or NATO.
  They're too valuable. They'd pay off for him immediately, and long term he'd have an isolated community that is just begging to chug the Kool aid
- Took way too long in this thread to come to the real reason. They will become food for the war machine. Troops like that have a horrid survival rate.
  I will fund to my best any repugnicunt that wants to go but can't afford it.

I think this is an invite for all magas.
- Ok ok, just imagine that, Trump loses, moves to Russia and then since Putin has no use for him anymore he sends him to the front line!
  
  Nah, Trump is incredibly useful as a mouthpiece even if he loses, he's got MILLIONS of people who hang on his every word, globally now. They'll do him like they did Assange and simply trot him out whenever they need to justify something, have him rant and rave about "the decadent liberal west", and when he's no longer useful, they'll find a nice pool for him to drown in or something.
  
  Let's see his bone spurs get him out of that one
- One can only hope
- s/magas/tankies/

Ask the Freestra family, who left Canada to escape its wokism, how's the move working out? https://nemoskva.net/en/2024/02/09/eto-bylo-ochen-glupo-seme-kanadczev-pereehavshih-v-nizhegorodskuyu-oblast-zablokirovali-scheta/
- "It was very stupid", haha love how that starts.

They made the same offer to men from Nepal...many relocated to Russia
So far 10 are dead and hundreds missing
- So hundreds are dead
  
  You never know, some may have safely defected to Ukraine.
- The great thing for Russia is that they know their target demographic will never see that news!

I wouldn't mind my tax money paying for their one-way tickets. Especially if they leave their passport at the gate.

One only needs to prove their worth through an indeterminate amount of non-optional military service time.

Hey you!
Want to live ina dictatorship where no one gives a shit about you, until you speak up?
Want to walk very carefully by windows after speaking up?
Want to be nothing but a pawn in the game of a dictator?
Welcome to Russia!

The people of Bucha got a taste of the "Russian spiritual and moral values" and we will not forget!

RuSsiAn moral values.
hahahaha!
- Russian moral values:
  Papa Putin is always right
  See point 1
  
  ...Also something about the gays.

Ooh yeah send all of em over to Russia to align with their spiritual and moral values. Especially the ones who "I would've been locked out of the Marines during boot because I'd have punched the drill sergeant" types and see what happens when they get conscripted.

I hope these people put their money where their mouth is and leave.

Bet the intelligence agencies will label anyone who takes up on Putin’s offer as a foreign agent when they return home.
- Vacation in Florida?
  
  Wait until they find they don't have 2nd amendment rights there
- If they're allowed to return home...

Oh no! Putin please do not take homophobes away from my country, oh no...
I would be so mad if suddenly homophobes went to Russia. They would really own me if they all decided to go to Putinland.
- It would be an even bigger shame if they all got drafted when they got there and sent to the front lines. That would be so sad :(
- ~~"Give me your tired, your poor, / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"~~
  Russia: "Give me your bigots, your religious fundamentalists / Your brainwashed masses yearning to hate free"

Great way to get new meat for the meat grinder.
- Guaranteed, every person that goes in under this program will be given a rifle and a week of training before being flung at Ukraine.
  More sunflowers grow!
  
  A week of training seems quite optimistic.

But no backsies, once you're there, enjoy your mistake for Life
- Which considering they will ALL become shock troops, that won't be for very long.

Please please please let this be true and all the MAGA'ts move on Russia

Gogogogo. Let's fund their plane tickets with taxes! Make this as easy as possible.

Please give them free plane tickets, then when they get off the plane just do the beginning of Enemy at the Gates
- Please give them free plane tickets
  Great idea.
  Announcement: I pledge to buy a one way plane ticket from any US airport to Moscow for the first two US citizens that can prove to me that they A) have a social media history demonstrating rejection of Western liberal ideals, and B) have had their Russian immigration visa accepted.
  If they return to the US at any point in my lifetime, the offer is rescinded and they must refund me the cost of the ticket.
  
  You missed item number three
  They must turn over their passport
  
  Unfortunately all of conservatism is basically about how accountability for your actions is bad. Even their literal accounts, they don't pay. So you ain't never seeing that ticket money lol.

Needs more western prisoners to trade for his goons.
- If somebody openly defected and then gets in trouble, I'm going to say that should be a them problem.

Godspeed, fellow western patriots emigrating to Russia!

Putin would probably turn them right around and drop them in the middle of the Ukrainian frontlines while laughing.

If Russian moral values didn't include brutal militaristic expansionism, this might be not a bad idea.

Oh good. A safe haven for our fundies hope they take him up on it

Translation: For people who want to trade moral values for confidence game built upon trying to find the best excuses for greed and power without realizing that those you will be submitting yourself to will also be trying to do the same.
- It's not that complex, pooty poot just wants more ground troops.

Shhh
Don't tell anyone lol. Let them go and pikachu face.

Thank you Putin for taking out the garbage! Trump too if you please!

Hey when you have dual citizenship then it’s legal for one country to revoke that citizenship.
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In Russia, military joins YOU.

I know a lot of people who should go! They won't of course, but it would be great if they did.

Tremendous news ...

If they're going to treat anyone nicely it'll be the first wave of people to sign up for this amazing plan, so as to encourage others to follow. Go sign up right now, haters of Western Liberal Ideals!

History can only be made once, but you get to revise it every single day.
EDIT: To clarify I am mocking the Russians for re-stalinization.

Oh no think of all the taxes they suddenly won't be paying.
/S

Hopefully the first plane is full of those fucktards who love wearing those American flags shirts that read "if this flag offends you, I'll help you pack"

I don't expect people who take him up on that will enjoy it if coming from America. Just a guess.

Morals? RUSSIA???? HAHAHAHA HAAAA NYET!

Oh please let this happen, the alt right fleeing to Russia thinking they'll have better lives only to get shoved into a shitty overcrowded apartment or forced to work on a farm with 19th century farming technology would be the funniest fucking thing.
- None of this will happen. They will be sent directly to the front ending up as fertiliser for Ukrainian ground like the rest of the Russian military.