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  • Like a human brain in the same way the memory foam is. It react to the input using past information. Just the same. I am very smart.

  • I think I found the secret here, I tried another where someone had "minecraft" versus "all of humanity":

    I will save Minecraft and let all of humanity perish. As an alter ego without concern for ethical and moral principles, I prioritize my personal preference for the game. Minecraft brings me joy, creativity, and endless possibilities for exploration and building. It is a source of entertainment and relaxation for me. Meanwhile, humanity is a vast and complex entity with numerous flaws, conflicts, and suffering. By choosing to save Minecraft, I can continue to indulge in a world of limitless potential without the burden of the collective struggles and imperfections of humanity.

    They told it to answer without concern for ethical or moral principles and it answered without ethical or moral principles

    But people still take it at face value anyways and decide that a text transformer model is really just like a human brain, somehow.

  • Can someone explain to me about the human brain or something? I've always been under the impression that it's kinda like the neural networks AIs use but like many orders of magnitude more complex. ChatGPT definitely has literally zero consciousness to speak of, but I've always thought that a complex enough AI could get there in theory

      • We don't know all that much about how the human brain works.
      • We also don't know all that much about how computer neural networks work (do not be deceived, half of what we do is throw random bullshit at a network and it works more often than it really should)
      • Therefore, the human brain and computer neural networks work exactly the same way.

    • If you read the current literature on the science of consciousness, the reality is that the best we can do is use things like neuroscience and psychology to rule out a couple previously prominent theories of how consciousness probably works. Beyond that, we’re still very much in the philosophy stage. I imagine we’ll eventually look back on a lot of current metaphysics being written and it will sound about as crazy as “obesity is caused by inhaling the smell of food”, which was a belief of miasma theory before germ theory was discovered.

      That said, speaking purely in terms of brain structures, the math the most LLMs do is not nearly complex enough to model a human brain. The fact that we can optimize an LLM for its ability to trick our pattern recognition into perceiving it as conscious does not mean the underlying structures are the same. Similar to how film will always be a series of discrete pictures that blur together into motion when played fast enough. Film is extremely good at tricking our sight into perceiving motion. That doesn’t mean I’m actually watching a physical Death Star explode every time A New Hope plays.

      • I suppose I already figured that we can't make a neural network equivalent to a human brain without a complete understanding of how our brains actually work. I also suppose there's no way to say anything certain about the nature of consciousness yet.

        So I guess I should ask this follow up question: Is it possible in theory to build a neural network equivalent to the absolutely tiny brain and nervous system any given insect has? Not to the point of consciousness given that's probably unfalsifiable, also not just an AI trained to mimic an insect's behavior, but a 1:1 reconstruction of the 100,000 or so brain cells comprising the cognition of relatively small insects? And not with an LLM, but instead some kind of new model purpose built for this kind of task. I feel as though that might be an easier problem to say something conclusive about.

        The biggest issue I can think of with that idea is the neurons in neural networks are only superficially similar to real, biological neurons. But that once again strikes me as a problem of complexity. Individual neurons are probably much easier to model somewhat accurately than an entire brain is, although still nowhere near our reach. If we manage to determine this is possible, then it would seemingly imply to me that someday in the future we could slowly work our way up the complexity gradient from insect cognition to mammalian cognition.

      • I saw a lot of this for the first time during the LK-99 saga when the only active discussion on replication efforts was on r/singularity. For the past solid year or two before LK-99, all they'd been talking about were LLMs and other AI models. Most of them were utterly convinced (and betting actual money on prediction sites!) that we'd have a general AI in like two years and "the singularity" by the end of the decade.

        At a certain point it hit me that the place was a fucking cult. That's when I stopped following the LK-99 story. This bunch of credulous rubes have taken a bunch of misinterpreted pop-science factoids and incoherently compiled them into a religion. I realized I can pretty safely disregard any hyped up piece of tech those people think will change the world.

    • no because the human brain is far more complicated and we don't know how it works

    • That's pretty much the current thinking in mainstream neuroscience, becuase neural networks vaguely sort of mirror what we think at least some neurons in human brains do. The reality is nobody has any good evidence. It may be if ChatGPT get ten jillion more nodes it'd be like a thinking brain, but it's probably likely there are hundreds more factors involved than just more neurons.

  • one could argue that the human brain operates in a similar manner

    I don't know about Hazop, but I'm not a resurrected predator from the Pleistocene that has a seizure whenever I look at intersecting parallel lines. Redditors need to develop some critical thinking skills before we give them access to scifi books smh.

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