Kamala Harris Holds Emergency Call With Dem Donors

Hillary Clinton rn

Oh, to be a fly on that wall. I'm sure I'd love it.

I wish her a good run and become the first female president of the USA.

- I don't like lemon ice-cream very much, but I like it a hell more than scrotum gangreene.
Gods I cannot wait for her to lose, she’s a POS through and through, Dems need a better candidate.
- I think she's an awful choice tactically and have little hope for what her administration would do - but I'll still vote for her if her name is on the ticket.
- Her losing means Trump winning which would be about a million times worse
- Gods I cannot wait for her to lose, she’s a POS through and through
  I find that in general when people say shit like this, without elaborating, they generally don't have a solid idea why they think that. Is that the case for you or do you have actual reasons for saying this?
- why would you hope that? (not a US resident)
- So you are eager for Trump to win, then.
  sigh
- They’re all pieces of shit, you don’t come to lead a political party without being one. But we’ve still got to pick which is the least smelly piece of shit of the bunch.
- enlight me on the reasons for this conclusion, idk much about her

I think Biden has a better chance than her, and if he's voted in she's the back up anyways.

- On that note, what would America do if Biden were re-elected and simply stepped down immediately?
  I know republicans would attempt to block and/or complain about everything, but the reasonables- how would they react?
  Assuming the Republicans still hold the House, they would ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS!
  Sure, President Harris would still be a Democrat and control the Executive branch, but her new VP would be voted in by the House of Representatives. They'd try to put Trump in as VP. Having Trump (even as the junior in the Executive Branch) would give him access and power to spoil President Harris's agenda.
  "Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress." - source is The Constitution of the United States specifically the 25th Amendment
  Alternatively, again assuming Republicans keep the house, they could make Trump the Speaker of the House.
  "The Constitution does not explicitly require the speaker to be an incumbent member of the House of Representatives, although every speaker thus far has been, and as a member the speaker also represents their district and retains the right to vote." source
  I hate these two possible scenarios of VP or Speaker.
  On that note, what would America do if Biden were re-elected and simply stepped down immediately?
I don't think he's capable of making up the difference.
She has higher potential. But she could also do worse, which doesn't really matter.

NYTimes reporting the call wasn’t anything exciting.

Vice President Kamala Harris tried to buck up the Democratic Party’s biggest donors on Friday, telling about 300 of them that there was little to worry about in President Biden’s campaign.

Ms. Harris spoke to the group at a time of extraordinary turmoil among Democrats, with many hoping that she will replace Mr. Biden as the party’s nominee. But several listeners said they found the meeting overall to be of little value and even, at times, condescending, believing that the message ignored donors’ legitimate concerns about the Biden-led ticket.

Ms. Harris, of course, is in a delicate position: She must demonstrate loyalty to her boss but also be prepared to jump immediately to the top of the Democratic ticket if Mr. Biden were to withdraw.

But several listeners said they found the meeting overall to be of little value and even, at times, condescending...
Yeah no shit. Harris bombed out of the 2020 run before Iowa because that's just who she is. Got 0 rizz. Biden should have talked Abrams into being VP 4 years ago.
The NYT that has a personal vendetta against Biden for reasons that Biden stans can never articulate?

It would be fucking hilarious if they pushed out Kamala for Hilary.

"We realized the reason voters want Biden to step down is because Harris is his running mate. So we replaced her with the only Democrat in existence less popular than Biden, and the only person in existence to have lost to the Toupee in an election: Hillary Clinton. It's her turn." - Dem leadership.
- God that whole rhetoric pissed me off to no end, when they shoved Bernie aside because it was ‘her turn’. The level of arrogance needed to even think that, let alone push it as an argument on voters…
  While I’m certainly not downplaying her actual political credits - she has experience in all levels of government - the presidency is not an ‘it’s my turn now’ position. That soured a lot of voters on her as a candidate.
  ‘It’s my turn’ is only an argument if you’re waiting in line at Disneyland.
- Technically, she got more votes (edit due to being unclear: than Trump, in 2016). And not by a little, nearly 3 million people more voted for her over orange anti-republic anti-democracy man. But the voting system is unrepresentative, so it didn’t matter.

Why is everyone acting as if she’s an heir or something? All delegates to the convention have already been elected. If Biden steps down, they can vote for whoever, and Dem party rules state that the superdelegates can’t jump in until the 2nd vote if no one wins the first.

I heard somewhere that all the money raised for the Biden/Harris campaign would stay with Harris if she ran for president.
I don't know if that's true, or what would happen to the money if they both drop out but I heard someone say that.
- From https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2024-07-19/what-happens-to-bidens-campaign-money-if-he-drops-out
  What Happens to Biden's Campaign Money if He Drops Out?
  It depends on who the new Democratic nominee is, says Saurav Ghosh, the director of federal campaign finance reform at the Campaign Legal Center.
  The simplest option from a campaign finance standpoint would be to nominate Vice President Kamala Harris, because “if Harris remains on the ticket, as either the presidential or vice-presidential candidate, the new ticket would maintain access to all the funds in the campaign committee,” says Ghosh.
  This is “[b]ecause Biden and Vice President Harris share a campaign committee,” Ghosh says, as both names appear on Biden’s statement of candidacy and statement of organization to the Federal Election Commission.
  However, if a new Democratic ticket did not include Biden or Harris, then things would become “more complicated,” Ghosh said.
  Since $2,000 is the limit to transfer money between federal campaign committees per election cycle, Ghosh said, the Biden campaign couldn’t legally contribute all of its campaign money to a new candidate.
  Instead, “Biden’s campaign would have to offer to refund the money to donors, who could then contribute to the new candidate’s campaign,” or “transfer an unlimited amount to the DNC, which could then spend the money supporting the new presidential nominee, and up to $32.3 million of that spending could be coordinated with the new nominee,” said Ghosh.
- This is absolutely not true. The DNC can do whatever the fuck they want with presidential campaign money. It's a donation to a private organization. There's no contract unless a big donor insists.
Why is everyone acting as if she’s an heir or something?
Because these are Democrats, and no one expects them to have primaries anymore.

It's been kind of maddening, seeing the discourse about her electability go from zero to hero. US politics makes no sense outside of corporate and wealthy circles. She is way more electable than Biden.

There are, potentially valid, concerns that her being brown, a prosecutor, and a her makes her less electable than the ancient white man nobody likes. I think people for whom this is a problem were never going to vote dem anyway, but I can see what they perceive the problem is.
- Some people are gonna vote D/R no matter what, some will never vote D/R. The problem at hand is not those, is taking the people that could vote D 'off their seats' and go cast that vote. Biden's not moving anyone, which could seriously result in losing the election, and I think Harris on top of not moving these could make the people that have a problem with her being a woman of color or a prosecutor go vote for Trump. The perceive problem is a real concern.
I wouldn't listen to any network or pundit that flip flops that noticeably
Where are you seeing that kind of drastic shift?

We should update our currency "enabling the worst of us". We deserve what we get at this point.

Democrats to Harris:

https://youtu.be/Ao9ejWOXgHc

Doesn’t matter. The “far left” aren’t voting for her either.

"Far left" here, we generally understand the need to vote blue no matter who in this election. It's pretty obvious.
- Then you’re not the “far left” I’m taking about. There’s a Far Left, which are legit- and the “far left” which are MAGA trolls trying to convince people not to vote.

They both need to step aside, it's better to have an unknown than a known candidate that people don't like.

Can you show an election where that strategy has worked this late in the game?
- Yea, pretty much every election up here in Canada.
  I'm amazed that Americans think four months "is like literally no time".
  It'd take an ad spend but the DNC could name recognition pretty much anyone at this point.
- Can you show an election where that strategy has worked this late in the game?
  To my knowledge the President and vice President haven't stepped down from a political campaign. However, I can point to a situation in which a vice president took over for an unpopular president and lost. That would be Hubert Humphrey in 1968.
  Additionally, just based on logic alone, it is ridiculous to insinuate that it wouldn't be better to have an unknown candidate than a disliked candidate.
  How could it be better to have a candidate that voters do not like, over a candidate that they haven't come to an opinion on yet?
- can you show an election where somebody in the polling position of biden has come back to win it?
  non-us election cycles are shorter than the time that's left i don't think it's an impossible hurdle
- Its not, last time we did this Reagan won by a fucking landslide. I am very nervous but voting D.

I wonder if we would get this headline if the coup failed...

Zero respect

I remember when Rolling Stone was a magazine only for music haha

So before it was a magazine? Because this is issue 1 and there's a reason there's a photo of John Lennon dressed as a soldier in an anti-war film on the front page of its inaugural issue in 1967.
- Still, it was music/musician focused.