Iāve been having a number of conversations on Hexchan recently trying to make sense of their politics. The most common instance of their hateful hypocrisy Iāve encountered is this constant assurance that they support trans people while immediately attacking and dog piling and trans people who point out that the situation would be much worse under Trump.
The hexchanners who arenāt actively Russian trolls seem to be little more than useful idiots for conservatives, minimizing the damage they do to vulnerable populations and engaging in high school level pettiness and hate.
Voting takes one day every 4 years. It's the bare minimum. Anyone who spends their time explicitly telling leftists to alienate themselves from that decision making process is a loser. That's what the Nazis want you to do, that's why they're trying to stop black people from voting. You could be out doing praxis instead of helping out the Nazis. Go arm your comrades, go paint a bike lane, go bring a gun to defend a drag queen storytime.
I have no problem with people who say that voting isn't enough and that we need to do more, or that the liberal parties are responsible for the conditions that lead to fascism.
Throwback to when Hillary supporters accused Bernie voters of switching to Trump in the general, and when they ran the numbers, finding that Bernie primary voters had one of the highest party loyalty rates, and that an alarming number of Hillary primary voters backed McCain in the general in '08.
Edit: Wait, this is the comment I make that ratios the OP and becomes my most upvoted comment of all time? How does that make sense?
They got REALLY mad when you told them that, if they believed beating Trump should be the top priority, and that Bernie Sanders supporters would largely not vote Democratic if he didn't win, and they're the only ones who wouldn't just vote blue, then the only logical thing to do would be to support Bernie.
National-level Republicans are banging the table for anti-trans bills
National-level Democrats (collectively, at least) are unable/unwilling to pass national trans protection legislation
A rabidly reactionary judiciary (certainly at the federal level) is eroding protections that exist, and salivating at the prospect of more damage; Democrats have no answer to this
Rank-and-file Republicans range from making attack helicopter jokes to genocidal jokes
Rank-and-file Democrats range from making attack helicopter jokes to doing meaningful work supporting trans people
You could say much the same for abortion, too.
There are some differences, but not nearly enough, and it's easy to see how one person can look at this and say Dems are obviously better (focusing on state stuff, rank-and-file attitudes, proposed national legislation) while another can look at this and say whatever Dems are doing (focusing mostly on national politics and losing the judiciary) is not nearly enough.
Whatever support Democrats give to trans people is nothing compared to the money they dump on the transphobic fascist police and military. The Democrats and Republicans represent the same class interests. They might sometimes talk a different way, but the policy outcomes are indistinguishable.
i would just order the military extrajudicially execute transphobes with drone strikes, because i was legally authorized to drone strike US citizens that are part of terrorist movements
US liberals have become so hyper nationalist that they view everything to the left of the demokkkratic party as a some kind of orthodox duginist trumpist russian red fascist communist plot
I've come to the conclusion that a huge % of Americans are basically illiterate. They can read and write but have a childlike understanding of most things (while thinking they are enlightened).
Why do people act like they need to "make sense of our politics?" We're open with our politics and we never shut up about it lol.
We aren't hiding anything about us being communists, anarchists, and other socialists. As much as we have divergent view points in this non-sectarian space, we're pretty cohesive and coherent on the broad strokes.
The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
They're liberals and can't conceive that we're genuine. They interpret all leftist politics as childish or a trick.
All liberals believe liberalism is simply the natural, logical final step of development. They see it as a fundamental truth like gravity. Anyone not subscribing to liberalism must either be confused or an active agent of misinformation.
All liberals believe liberalism is simply the natural, logical final step of development. They see it as a fundamental truth like gravity. Anyone not subscribing to liberalism must either be confused or an active agent of misinformation.
One of the few things that get to me is when they call us childish. Its like a 200 year long intellectual tradition, but somehow we haven't thought it through and its childish
excuse me, i write in the names of every single socialist leader overthrown by the CIA, instead, and then under that I write "WE WILL RETURN AS A GHOST ARMY"
I sure as shit don't feel any more safe than when Trump was in office, almost like there's a larger societal political thing going on that's not contingent on one person.
Thanks to Biden for...
trump would be a distant memory and his political project would have imploded in 2016 if not for the massive support he receives daily from... online fake leftists.
since the world is ruled entirely by a High Court of Ideas in the Mind Palace of America, when these FAKE leftists shit on biden with their memes, it's the same as sponsoring state violence against minorities. actually it's worse.
Biden-Harris 2024:
Everything Else
Is Literally A Pogrom, JACK
Your argument is good, but is it actually the case that it is not only among the best places in the world to transition but also a good place to transition?
This is the most terminal case of America brain I've ever seen. Complete myopic focus on American domestic issues as the sole criteria for politics.
I'm unironically and genuinely happy for trans Americans that Biden and the Dems have treated them better than Trump. However, that can't be viewed in isolation of the fact that Biden and the dems are hellbent on ratcheting political tensions with China far higher than with Trump and his trade war. Add to that the unrelenting Dem-led brinksmanship and escalation over Ukraine (which can be traced back to the Maidan Coup which happened on Obama's watch).
Nobody is denying that Trump did all sorts of awful shit when he was in power, but Americans need to at least acknowledge that he wasn't constantly trying to provoke shooting wars with two nuclear great powers at the same time.
Nobody on the left should support Trump but you at least have to recognize that Blue Man is somehow being more of a bloodthirsty warmonger than the evil fascist Red Man you hate so much.
Americans need to at least acknowledge that he wasn't constantly trying to provoke shooting wars with two nuclear great powers at the same time.
That's only because Iran and Palestine aren't nuclear powers. Go look up Trump's policy towards them, you may learn a thing or two.
Trump was also at least as hawkish on eastward NATO expansion and escalating the conflict with Russia to open war with an Amerikan proxy as any other US president in the last 30 years. He broke disarmament treaties, had the Donbass shelled by Ukrainian nazis, moved troops eastwards from Germany to Poland. Let's not even get started on the 2% goal for NATO funding that popped up under Trump and has never gone away. Or how he kicked off a trade war with China. Or the travel ban for the Chinese. How gullible can you be?
I'm sick and tired of a way too vocal minority on this site pretending that Trump is "at least better on foreign policy than the Dems" because you like his aesthetics better than Biden's. First of all, you're doing a liberalism. Secondly, you're doing a lesser evilism. FUCK THAT. Thirdly, you're ignoring that his unilateralism, just like Dubya's before him, isn't actual isolationism, let alone anti-imperialism, but simply works as part of a greater good cop bad cop scheme with the dems in how they treat AmeriKKKas allies abroad. The GOP shits on our governments openly to apply pressure, then after the next electoral circus show the Dems swoop in to "mend relations" again, every good little lib here in Europe loves the USA again (and then the Dems are free to blow up one of our pipelines). You cannot vote your way out of the genocidal foreign policy of the USA. It is bipartisan consensus and you're simply falling for the RepubliKKKan ruse that gives you the illusion of "some amount of choice" on this matter.
Let's not even get me started on your "i support not genociding trans people BUT" reasoning up there. I have a really hard time not to start screaming at you rn, what the actual fuck am i reading there?