‘I am not made for war’: the men fleeing Ukraine to evade conscription
‘I am not made for war’: the men fleeing Ukraine to evade conscription
As a new recruitment drive looms, some are turning to online handlers and forgers to escape the horror of war
What a based man. As a wise Spaniard once said, "Malditas sean las guerras y los canallas que las hacen".
I understand being scared, but it would be hard for me to abandon my country in its time of need. Not for the government, but for the people that live there.
ETA: quite a few down votes, no one explaining why though
There are plenty of reasons that make a person unsuited for combat besides fear. The unwillingness to kill another person is a big one. The awareness that you simply don't have that kind of thing in you. Seriously, there's no call for you to smear them like that.
I'm sorry, I can't agree with that statement for several reasons.
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the vast majority of military members are not in direct combat roles in this day and age. There are plenty of roles where one isn't infantry, be it intelligence, air defense, logistics, maintenence, etcetera.
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these aren't people, these are monsters invading your homeland that will subject you to their government at best and slaughter you at less than best, and far worse at their worst. If you can't pull a trigger to defend your family and friends from that, but you'll leave them out to dry in front of an invading force while you hide behind the forces of other countries, where do your principles lie?
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quite a few down votes, no one explaining why though
It's hard to take such declarations seriously over internet.
I agree with you but I also understand why this is happening. I would be hard pressed to say I would be made out for military service even though I have great respect for those in the military. Cowardice is one reason and a very relatable one at that. To say people aren't fleeing because of cowardice at all is naive. But to judge them for that is unfair. I think we all agree there.
That being said, people in your comment chain aren't taking into account the fact that the very fabric of the Ukrainian society is under threat of total eradication. Historically that brings out a higher calling in people to defend their own homes, their loved ones, and their neighbors.
At any rate, the fleeing of these men bodes quite poorly for the future of us all.
I'm tired of people acting like Ukraine isn't holding back the fascist tide of Russian imperialism to the benefit of us all. If they were to give up today it would spell the end of their civilization, and a start to many great problems for the rest of us. Our peace is paid for in Ukrainian blood right now. Russia is sabotaging several foreign powers with intention to finish this genocide and expand the war. America, Germany, Sweden and elsewhere have been hit. And people act like we're not going to have to put our own soldiers on the line at some point. And the less Ukrainians in the fight, the sooner that will be.
Give me the downvotes. I've studied Russian history.
Edit: I'd also like someone to give me an alternative to conscription in their case. I see no other option.
When the country is doing stupid shit like invading Iraq I'm opposed to the draft. When it's defending against an existential threat which is on native soil, I don't have as much sympathy for people avoiding the draft.
You would if it was you being sent to the meat grinder.
Very brave stance coming from someone online
Ukraine allows for foreign volunteers. Feel free to help out.
Go take their place then.
When its past bad thing you were totally against it, when its current bad thing your support it. Liberals like you truely oppose every war of their empire but the current one.