Biden says ‘we did well,’ no concerns about debate performance [Brett Samuels | 06/28/24 | The Hill]
Biden says ‘we did well,’ no concerns about debate performance [Brett Samuels | 06/28/24 | The Hill]
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/17003005
President Biden brushed off concerns about his debate performance against former President Trump Thursday despite widespread panic among Democrats about how the night played out.
They were both caricatures of themselves up there.
Trump was a bombastic bully who lied constantly and dodged virtually every question. Did little else but talk shit.
Biden was... Half asleep. Mumbling, trailing off stuttering, losing track of what he was saying...
This country is fucking embarrassing.
The problem is Trump was also far more put together than usual and didn't go for his normal style of interrupting everything. So he lied his ass off but his tone was reasonable. And that's something that fools way too many people.
The “every accusation is a confession” rule suggests that he was on some meds to help him keep his composure. Definitely not any truth serums though.
I still remember being dissappointed by the US when Bush became president. Then horrified when Trump won. Now I'm just scared and depressed.
Trump bloviated and lied while Joe stuck to the facts.
This will change nobody’s mind, but let Fox News shit themselves over their delusion…
Trump told such incredible lies that I can’t believe he can do it with a straight face. I mean even he can’t believe all of it. I think he is just saying the most overtly wrong things to see if his base will ever call bullshit. Like some kind of competition to find out if he can convince them he was the first man in the moon or some shit.
It was a terrible format. I thought the point of being able to mute them would to keep their answers on question but we got 3 minutes streams of consciousness where the guys rambled off as many of the talking points as they could before the timer ran out.
If Biden had been coached to provide very short, sweet, direct answers and not had an audible death rattle in his voice, he would've won.
This 1000%. Even with the death rattle, he's the only one that actually answered any questions.
Since these debates are formatted like a game show anyways, why not go further and use a points system?
Imagine like anytime any player wants they can challenge what the other player said. Then a team of fact checkers is consulted and they give a truth rating. If the rating is ambiguous, nothing happens and we move on. If it turns out the player was lying, they get a penalty point. But if the player was telling the truth, the challenger gets a penalty point.
Three points and you're out, plus a bucket of slime gets dumped on you.
Let's make this shit fun to watch and call out the lies.
Too many lies and a trap door opens up that dumps grifter politicians in the dumpster where they belong
He probably believes it too.
widespread panic among Democrats about how the night played out.
The Republicans have been in "widespread panic" and in various states of chaos over the past couple of years over lots of issues, and it has made no difference in voter support whatsoever.
This "panic" among Democratic pundits will make no difference in voter support either.
It was like watching 9/11 all over again, Joe.
A fascist vs a capitalist zombie is not "we did well."
America is fucked.
Biden is not thinking clearly.
Going back to the 2012 VP debate is a ride. Martha Raddatz a competent moderator. Joe Biden showed that he and Obama weren't just better candidates than Romney/Ryan, but that they were good candidates in general.
Biden has declined a lot in the last 12 years. Hell, he's declined a lot just in the last 4. He should never have run in 2020. He could have been remembered for the Barack and Joe memes. Instead, we got stuck with this.
I'll add that the choice is down to someone who lied about having sex with a porn star (and thousands of other things), radicalized the right, legitimized hate groups like the KKK, overturned Roe, and wouldn't mind being installed as dictator OR someone who has signed some MAJOR, groundbreaking legislation in his term. PACT, CHIPS, ARPA, Infrastructure, and Inflation Reduction Acts are all great things. Biden's administration is investing in American manufacturing, which we have basically ignored for decades, leaving the cities built around the concept to rot. The choice is clear. But damn, man, it could be so much better than this. We need more young blood in DC.
What else will say someone who is out of reality?.. beside non-sense..
Oh stop.
I don't like Biden, but he's more connected to reality than the other guy.
I do admit that I'd rather have a selection of more fit candidates. But either you're either exaggerating, or drank the GOP koolaid.
Gonna preface this with I didn’t watch because it was always going to be a shitshow.
But Biden didn’t “win”- there was no “win” to be had.
It doesn’t matter if he scored more points or managed to call Trump out or got some good one liners. The people that most need to hear them won’t. The sound bites will be edited to play to respective audiences, and that’s that.
There is no “win” here.
At the end of the day, Biden got into a pissing match with a giant orange turd; he looks a fool for the effort. America looks a fool for entertaining this.
Don’t call it a “win”.
Lol. Are YOU in touch with reality? Biden at least told facts, while Trump just straight lied and tried not look like he was completely useless (which he is). He did nothing during his time in office, and blames literally everyone else when confronted with that fact.
It’s not about whether you or I or the person you’re replying to is in touch with reality or not. It matters what the vast majority of the predominantly idiotic swing voters think in this country, and in that context, last night’s showing was not inspiring for the “please let’s not have fascism” team.
And I am calling swing voters idiots nowadays because with what the parties, candidates, and stakes are these days, you would have to at best be a genuine idiot, and at worst an outright fascist/theocratic fascist to seriously consider voting for Trump.