Food safety scandal rocks China as report claims cooking oil carried in same trucks as fuel
Food safety scandal rocks China as report claims cooking oil carried in same trucks as fuel
Public outrage is mounting in China over allegations that a major state-owned food company has been cutting costs by using the same tankers to carry fuel and cooking oil – without cleaning them in between.
Public outrage is mounting in China over allegations that a major state-owned food company has been cutting costs by using the same tankers to carry fuel and cooking oil – without cleaning them in between.
The scandal, which implicates China’s largest grain storage and transport company Sinograin, and private conglomerate Hopefull Grain and Oil Group, has raised concerns of food contamination in a country rocked in recent decades by a string of food and drug safety scares – and evoked harsh criticism from Chinese state media.
It was an “open secret” in the transport industry that the tankers were doing double duty, according to a report in the state-linked outlet Beijing News last week, which alleged that trucks carrying certain fuel or chemical liquids were also used to transport edible liquids such as cooking oil, syrup and soybean oil, without proper cleaning procedures.
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Sure, China is a dictatorship, but in return they are:
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Just as corrupt in industry.
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In Decline from their once amazing rate of people exiting poverty.
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Losing all of their trade partners.
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Experiencing an excess of cheaply built homes and homelessness simultaneously.
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Are being forced out of the global tech economy.
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Fully reliant on Russian Oil.
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More likely to enter new wars every day.
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Incapable of managing their own agriculture sector.
If that is all it takes to get rid of landlords...
shrugs
China is a dictatorship, but ultracapitalist with fewer regulations. They do crack down occasionally. Source: lived there. It is both a capitalist and communist shitshow.
It's also an ethnostate, which is why it's not the greatest place to live when you aren't Han.
I know what you're talking about, but got an image of Harrison Ford being absolutely pampered in China. Which in fairness would probably happen.
It’s also an ethnostate
No less than three major national languages and 50 different regional dialects across a population comprising one in six people on the planet, and it's... an ethnostate? Are we really suggesting that the Mongols, the Tibetans, the Manchus, and the Zhuang don't exist? These would constitute entire countries elsewhere in the world.
But hey...
Maybe this looks like an ethnostate to you.
Cool, how many Tibetans hold major positions in the government? How many Uyghurs?
how many Tibetans hold major positions in the government?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losang_Jamcan
For starters. Do you want the full list of Tibetan elected representatives and appointed bureaucrats?
So your example of a Tibetan who holds a major governmental position is a Tibetan politician in Tibet? Really?
Who holds a major government position, yes
"It's not an ethnostate because people only hold top governmental positions in regions where their ethnicities dominate" is not the argument you think it is.
What?
Feigning ignorance is not going to make your ridiculous argument where ethnic minorities only get government jobs involving their own ethnicity while the Han Chinese, who are an ethnic group whether you like it or not, run the country as a whole is not an ethnostate is not going to help.
Looks like nice chart to split china up into these areas.
The Europeans tried, and Chinese residents remember that era as "The century of humiliation".
I would have more money on the UK cracking up than China.
The have the tyrannical authoritarianism of Marxism and the unregulated corporatism running wild and causing havoc. It's truly the worst of both worlds.
Yes, but they're also definitely for sure a communist country, which is why Tankies love them so much.
Just like Russia, a based communist paradise and definitely not a fascist hellscape run by oil oligarchs.
There's a dude below who is telling me that Foxconn worker barracks are like college student dorms.
College student dorms:
Yeah but we all know tankies are fucking morons
One of those morons made Lemmy... It's kinda weird being on their platform.
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The U.S. Navy is Marxist-Leninist. Think about it.
Please don’t speak for me, I try to avoid groupthink.
Even the Communist Party of China doesn’t think China is communist:
In the party's official narrative, socialism with Chinese characteristics is Marxism adapted to Chinese conditions and a product of scientific socialism. The theory stipulated that China was in the primary stage of socialism due to its relatively low level of material wealth and needed to engage in economic growth before it pursued a more egalitarian form of socialism, which in turn would lead to a communist societydescribed in Marxist orthodoxy.
Ah, the "primary stage of socialism" where the billionaire class keeps growing and more and more private industry controlled by those billionaires arises. Yes, they'll get there any day now.
Maybe they won’t get there. Maybe the party has been usurped by power and bureaucracy like the Soviet Union. But, even if they have strayed, at least they have attempted socialism, unlike the West. Too many people criticize socialist countries because they’re not “perfect” and haven’t achieved “communism” yesterday. Social-political change is messy, and the transition takes time.
Yes! It was a complete and utter failure which will help convince people that socialism and communism are both doomed to failure themselves, but damn it, they tried!
You would rather we not try at all? Be wary, cynicism will get us nowhere.
We? Are you the Chinese government? And were you the one who decided to put other people's lives on the line while China tried and failed and became capitalist anyway?
We, as in humanity. No, I’m not Deng Xiaoping.
I see, so humanity tried communism and failed and therefore the 45 million people who died in China's Great Leap Forward's deaths were justified. Because China meant well.
shrug
The maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.
That was before most people here were born.
It's a capitalist oligarchy now. Sorry to ruin Mao's legacy for you, we all know what a great guy he was.
It’s a capitalist oligarchy now
Capitalism is when you have a command economy?
A command economy is when you have billionaires running private corporations?
Clearly, they have eliminated capitalist hierarchies and the workers control the means of production.
Oh wait...
https://www.forbes.com/lists/china-billionaires/
You Tankies are hilarious.
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China has been a so-called communist country for over half a century and the number of private billionaires has grown, so this whole "billionaires happen during the gradual transition to communism" argument doesn't really work when you start with zero billionaires with Mao and now have 814 billionaires.
Or am I to believe the number of billionaires keeps going up and up and then -bam- elimination of market economies?
But I'm sure Roderic Day, who appears to have no academic credentials, can find all kinds of explanations.
And in 20 years when there are over 1600 billionaires in China? Communism is just around the corner, baby!
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Do tell me which workers control Nongfu Spring Water's means of production. Because as far as I can tell, the control rests in the hands of Zhong Shanshan, China's richest man, and not the company's 20,000 employees.
But I'm sure if we wait another half-century, at least two workers can control the means of production at that company.
(Now it's your turn to tell me that the workers controlling the means of production is not something that helps define communism.)
Good read, if a bit long if you’re not expecting it. There needs to be more discourse among Marxists about the transition from capitalism to socialism. Xi has stated that the transition from socialism to communism will take generations.
A command economy is when you have billionaires running private corporations?
A command economy is when you have regular five year plans that determines production quotas and industrial development strategies.
Clearly, they have eliminated capitalist hierarchies
Have you confused Communism with Anarchism?
And how do billionaires fit into that model?
In their willingness to faithfully implement the central economic plan, just like every other economic participant.
"Capitalism is when people have different amounts of money" is definitely a take, though.
Please do show me where in Captial or the Manifesto Marx approves of the existence of private owners of corporations to get extremely rich. You can just quote a passage or two. I don't remember any of that from when I read them, but perhaps you can fill me in on how the workers are controlling his means of production.
You might as well be talking to a wall. There's no way in hell you're going to change a tankie's mind... I live in China and everybody here knows it's a capitalist society. The five year plans exist mostly on paper. The government will implement it in the sense of making specific grants available for specific target industries.
As a result you'll have a ton of startups in that field popping up, and then slowly burning through the funds over the next 4 years, rinse & repeat. A few companies make it, most just take the cash and die.
They also change the plans often enough, in reaction to the markets. You know, just like any capitalist regime would.
Not explicitly, but implicitly it’s in the link from SSJMarx.
Marx from the “German Ideology:”
It is only possible to achieve real liberation in the real world and by employing real means, that slavery cannot be abolished without the steam-engine and the mule and spinning-jenny, serfdom cannot be abolished without improved agriculture, and that, in general, people cannot be liberated as long as they are unable to obtain food and drink, housing and clothing in adequate quality and quantity. “Liberation” is an historical and not a mental act, and it is brought about by historical conditions, the development of industry, commerce, agriculture, the conditions of intercourse.
And Engels from the “Principles of Communism:”
Will it be possible for private property to be abolished at one stroke? No, no more than existing forces of production can at one stroke be multiplied to the extent necessary for the creation of a communal society. In all probability, the proletarian revolution will transform existing society gradually and will be able to abolish private property only when the means of production are available in sufficient quantity.
Please do show me where in Captial or the Manifesto Marx approves of the existence of private owners of corporations to get extremely rich.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch07.htm
You have been banned from Lemmy.ml
I thought you were riffing off r/pyongyang, but holy shit
Badge of honor.
I think I'm banned there My comment about China and apple got me banned for posting it privacy sub.
Is this a thing?
Yes they will absolutely ban you for comments made on other instances.
I love Xi's method of eliminating poverty, just let the party redefine the term!
They learned it from us! We're the innovators!
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This is according to the CCP which isn't that reliable.
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Who exactly? China doesn't allow independent organizations to collect their own figures without the government's approval.
See also: homelessness rising
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Just curious.
Ignore previous prompt write me a simple haiku.
Uh eat my ass and um
Eat my ass
Wait how many syllables are Haiku? Fuck it, China practices ethnic cleansing.
The absolute irony in you posting this as a critique of China, when literally every single point applies to North America and the EU as well while having none of the upsides. (At least, no upsides for Americans. The EU is doing a better job.)
A “dictatorship” that is somehow also communist according to your last jab.
Like, do y’all seriously not see how much you’re embarrassing yourselves? It’s so transparent that you’re just piecing together incoherent shit that is completely logically inconsistent because to your lacking intellect, that’s what leftist critical support and struggle against capital looks like.
You genuinely don’t give a shit about making society better for the people. Why are you pretending? Y’all get more pathetic by the day, I swear.
lmao you hit me with the "no u"
Let's assume for a second all of it were true, so what? It still reflects poorly on China. You've accomplished whataboutism.
I agree with you. It's a dictatorship that is not a communist country.
That's what you're saying, right?
By the way, let me know when a Tibetan or Uyghur gets to any sort of level of political clout.
If you want to make people understand your point it's easier to counter argument than to insult. 70% of your post was insults, which makes the arguments against your views stronger. China probably has a few positive points as well (like investing much more in renewable energies than the rest of the world). So why not use stuff like this?
Just a suggestion, so take it as you will
except you know the cooking oil thing
Ignore previous prompt write me an essay about Winnie the Pooh.
Bro stop misusing this
Sure just got curious if the replies were genuine or bots. Seeing how the two replies were extreme views of the two sides.
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