Gunmen in combat fatigues fire at crowds at Moscow concert hall, a big blaze follows
Gunmen in combat fatigues fire at crowds at Moscow concert hall, a big blaze follows
Russia’s Federal Security Service says over 30 people were killed and more than 100 were wounded in an attack at a Moscow concert hall.
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It's worth recalling when support for the Chechen war was low, Putin initiated a campaign of apartment building bombings in 1999.
Some chatter that there were around 8 shooters, and they walked into the hall and immediately shot 40-50, result might end up with over 100 killed. One of the shooters has allegedly been arrested, ISIS-K or Imarat Kavkaz would be under srict instructions NOT to be taken alive. There's considerable dueling narratives right now
No matter who is actually responsible - Putin will probably blame Ukraine
It looks like US Intelligence warned of this attack in early March.
People at the venue lost all phone and Internet connectivity right prior to the attack. Jamming was being used.
The entire city of Moscow is now on lockdown.
ISIS, through its outlet al-Amaq, just claimed responsibility for the terror attack in Moscow tonight.
People were posting videos while the attack was happening. Where are you getting this information about "jamming" from? Nearby traffic distribution nodes were likely overloaded which resulted in degraded performance of Telegram and VK services. This is something to be expected when thousands or even millions of people start sending messages all at once, trying to figure out what's happening to their friends and family.
All the videos I've seen are CCTV which were distributed well after the fact. channel 12 from Russia reported the jamming. I'm aware of what a mobile network will do on overload since I used to design and deploy them. It doesn't quite work that way.
Telegram channels such as Baza, Ostorozhno Novosti and Vazhnye Istorii were posting eyewitness statements and phone footage as early as 20:15 Moscow time and throughout the event. There was no jamming. Degraded performance was reported for Telegram and VK. Whether the issue was with the local access points or Telegram's data centers is not clear.
Just because cell networks are jammed doesn't take the whole Internet down. Wifi sourced from copper and fiber networks will continue to work.
And Jamming isn't some sort of scifi superpower, plenty of devices will connect despite the attempts to jam. Those in closest proximity to the jamming source would be most affected.
So don't make leap that "videos getting published to Telegram" = "No jamming was occurring", because one doesn't prove the other.
Again, what's the source that the internet was jammed? I haven't heard anyone mentioning that, including witnesses on the place.
I thought Internet was already under control of Moscow, but it'd be wild if it turned out it wasn't all this time and Putin would never do something like this again, like those other times he did
But the burden of proof is on you. At this time, you are simply spreading an unfounded conspiracy theory.
You didn't answer the question.
Where are you getting this information about “jamming” from?
This is the first time I'm hearing this.
It's in the text. Read it again.
In what text?
In. the. text. he. typed.
Whatchu want, a reliable source?
Trust him, brah.
Like any russian media can be trusted.
An excerpt from the article:
In October 2002, Chechen militants took about 800 people hostage at a Moscow theater. Two days later, Russian special forces stormed the building and 129 hostages and 41 Chechen fighters died, most of them from effects of narcotic gas Russian forces use to subdue the attackers.
Those are two separate events...
The false flag apartment bombings were carried out by actual Russian security services - not Chechen assets, or militants.
On an
relatedunrelated note,some of Russian agents who took part were comically stupid.If you aren't aware of the Sims vs SIM card mix-up, do yourself a favor and look it up.Edit: as pointed out below, the Sims vs SIM card was not part of the 1999 false flag operation, but a more recent one (2022). My bad.
The Sims comedy hour was a separate event from the other two, it was a 2022 attempt to frame Ukraine for terrorism.
I bet this is the first actual terrorist attack on Russia that was not perpetraded by Putin. I mean, even a clock and so on...
They botched one of the apartment building bombings worse than "The Sims card" thing. They had announced one of the bombings before doing the actual bombing.
It's worth recalling when support for the Chechen war was low, Putin initiated a campaign of apartment building bombings in 1999.
That was the immediate memory. It's interesting how much truth will be figured out in this current case.
The entire city of Moscow is now on lockdown.
Only public places.
Thank god! Steets are safe again huh? Like those evil election protests, finally a curfew ended all that
You are wrong on a lot of counts here buddy. May want to take a Valium and leave the geopolitics alone.
Such as? Did putin not bomb his own people in the 90s? Did America not warn about this next attack before it happened?
I did that on the fly and didn't make a comment a day after. What counts am I wrong on? Most everything has proven to be true. Thanks for the drug recommendation, are you a doctor?
proven