Netanyahu says Israel will push on with Gaza offensive, including in Rafah
Netanyahu says Israel will push on with Gaza offensive, including in Rafah
Israel will push on with its offensive against Hamas, including into the southern Gaza city of Rafah, despite growing international pressure to stop, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday.
Netanyahu has vowed to destroy Hamas after its fighters attacked southern Israel on Oct. 7, killing 1,200 people and abducting 253, according to Israeli tallies. More than 30,000 people have been killed in Gaza during Israel's subsequent offensive, Palestinian health authorities estimate, prompting worldwide criticism and condemnation.
"There is international pressure and it's growing, but particularly when the international pressure rises, we must close ranks, we need to stand together against the attempts to stop the war," he said.
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To watch the Biden administration continue to pretend that they have any effect whatsoever in preventing Israel's murderous rampage is just embarrassing at this point.
I can't wait to see how they completely fail to hold Netanyahu to account this time ...
Can’t fail to hold someone accountable if you never try to.
The bare minimum would be to follow international law regarding supply of weapons to a genocide.
If you wanna go absolutely wild, you could stop vetoing UN resolutions demanding a ceasefire.
You don't understand, they're building a dock in Gaza!
The Biden Administration takes no responsibility for the 18 year old Israeli Naval Blockade or any internal checkpoints that may or may not be turning around aid convoys. Furthermore the American administration cannot guarantee any Gazans will be able to reach the docks without Israel deciding they are in fact Hamas because they're conducting civil governance.
I really need the onion to make this comment into an actual ad with the fast talk side effect speech so I can link it anytime someone says Biden is helping Gaza
Israel already came out and said any ships have to go through Israeli customs on Cypress; They're securing the dock area against Palestinians; and internal checkpoints throughout the strip will remain.
So... Yeah. Enjoy the new dock I guess?
Haven't you heard?
Biden said they'll be a ceasefire in a week, it's like "infrastructure week" all fucking over again.
Yep - that prediction certainly aged like milk.
Hey, he's just helping domestic yogurt production...
According to half of lemmy he can press a magic button to stop it.
Oh, and it's his fault... Somehow.
It's not his fault, but he has approved a number of military aid packages that get sent directly to Israel. So, in a way, it kinda is indirectly his fault.
Instead of dealing with our own problems in our country, he's giving money to Israel to participate in genocide.
Biden could stop supplying weapons and ammunition until the radical Republicans finally pass a budget that includes money for that. He could put limitations on the weapons that we do supply to Israel, like we've put restrictions on the weapons we supply to the rest of the world - including Ukraine. He could put sanctions on the members of the Israeli government and the Israeli press and the Israeli religious community that have publicly called for Palestinian genocide. He could speak against Israel's actions in his speeches, or send surrogates out to do so on his behalf. He could stop vetoing toothless UN resolutions calling for Israel to stop murdering civilians.
European view here, with a question:
I understand the US has always stood by Israel. Some reasons geopolitical, some religious and some business related.
Wouldn't every president who would actively block military or financial aid to Israel or even whisper the word sanctions be a pariah in his own government?
How would the media react?
How would the big players and decision makers in politics, religion and business react?
That's the real problem. Israel is a major ally because they're in the Middle East and not many countries like the US there. So it's in the US interest to support them.
There's also a very scary amount of doomsday religious people with pull that believe Israel will trigger the end of the world, and they actually want that to happen.
The mainstream media would react better than you think. They've been running stories about Israeli war crimes for months.
Just one uhhh point.
If the UN got such a resolution past the security council, it could very well result in a peacekeeping force and Israel becoming a banned country as far as weapons and military technology sales.
The UN is toothless because of the security council vetoes.
Nice strawman.
What he could do, at the very least, is follow the tone already set by his VP, or even (dare I say it) threaten to pause US military support if the assault on Rafa goes ahead.
What's the straw man I presented?
He's personally stopped Netanyahu before. The Israelis stopped bombing Gaza in 2021 after one phone call.
Also supplying the bombs makes you pretty fucking complicit. Everyone understood this when Iran supplied AQ with roadside bombs in Iraq but now it's some distant concept.
Yeah the button is labeled "stop transfer of bombs to Isreal". All he has to do is push it. Without the unlimited firehouse of US taxpayer funded weapons flowing in, Isreal will have to decide whether they want to draw down their current stocks blowing up residential houses and hospitals, leaving them more vulnerable to actual threats, or pull back. Also, the US is the only thing holding back international accountability. If Isreal loses that support, they might face consequences for their actions, become isolated, lose trade, etc.
Now it doesn't have to get all the way to that point, the US could just seriously threaten cutting off support, military or otherwise, and Israel would likely back down. But Biden calling bibi and saying "pwease don't target civilians" is not asserting pressure.
Biden won't do more because he knows if he puts real pressure on Isreal then Republicans would attack him as "weak on Hamas" or whatever, and that threatens his reelection. Biden cares about that far more than human rights.
That's only half the problem. The other half is that they don't know that diplomacy happens behind closed doors.
For instance, the DOD has been working the last couple of weeks getting together material for the floating docks for Gaza announced today. If you think this angers Bibi, you would be right. Instead half of Lemmy takes credit for it by their uncommitted votes. Ridiculous, but that's OK.
As for this, the rumor is that Biden has some consequences for Bibi if he makes a move on Rafah.
I mean, they're ridding the world of a civilization which is intolerant to LGBT individuals, women, etc. So what's the problem? Not all human life is worth something. Not all cultures are worth preserving.
At least your honest about your call for genocide, instead of pussyfooting around with "right to defend themselves" nonsense.
The majority of the state of Mississippi does not support LGBT rights or protections for women That's their culture, even if not everyone agrees with that. I assume your cool with genocideing Mississippi as well?
Yeah, fuck Mississippi. I say we KOS anyone flying a "Rebel" flag.
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That's a yikes! from me, dawg.
This comment is so coldhearted and monstrous that I barely know how to respond to this one. The shear ignorance and idiocy it takes to justify genocide is fucking chilling. I really hope you take a minute to take a step back and really think about what you just said.
You don't agree with these people's feelings on politics, ethics, and laws. Okay.
....therefore it is okay in your eyes that men, women, children, and babies be murdered, bombed, stripped naked, raped, executed, tortured, and eliminated....because you don't agree with them. Fucking yikes dude.
For someone that considers LGBTQ, gender-inclusivity, and women's rights important, your comment is beyond appalling and really speaks volumes about much depth and thought you really give beyond the face values of the things you support.
Delete your comment. Reevaluate what it means to be human being, and I really hope you never forget what you wrote here. Seriously. Let it sink in the depravity of what you just supported. I hope it haunts you for the rest of your life - at least then you might possibly become a better human being for it.
I hate humanity in almost every form. I don't give a shit about being a human being, human lives are worthless. My life is worthless, your life is worthless, their lives are worthless, it's all worthless.
It's the paradox of intolerance. If we're willing to accept intolerance, then we're part of the problem. There's no "correct" answer. You always wrong someone. There is no solution that doesn't involve someone being wronged. None of this shit matters. You aren't going to make a difference, I'm not gonna make a difference. Nothing you do for the rest of your life will save anyone over there. None of your incessant whining on the internet will change anyone's opinion, and your comments here are worth literally less than nothing. Ditto for mine.
Stop worrying about it so much, because nothing will change. We're all just here along for the ride. I'm looking at the silver lining - people who are intolerant to LGBT/Women are being eliminated and tolerance towards those people will increase as the old society is pushed out. It's the ebb and flow of humanity.
To sit here and feign righteousness is beyond pretentious. I'm the only one no longer pretending.
This is some "I'm 14 and this is deep" shit.
You can't "paradox of intolerance" this one as an argument to justify genocide you lunatic. Just because you heard something trendy in the Internet doesn't mean it applies in all situations. It's not a one-size-fits-all wrench to winning an argument - it just means you're lazy and refuse to do any sort of critical thinking. By your logic, you can justify the murder of your neighbor because you feel that they are "intolerant" and you don't agree with their political viewpoints.
Our species are literally the top of the food chain because we're the most homicidal, genocidal species to ever exist. It is QUITE LITERALLY a one-size-fits-all approach. The weak die to make room for the strong. It happens to be that I'm a part of the strong society and I'm okay with that society striking back at a society that attacked them. It isn't deep. I'm not claiming that I'm deep, or edgy...it's all pretty simple. We're violent. Violence happens. We're not gonna change it, so why not look on the bright side? The bright side is an intolerant society is being gotten rid of for a more tolerant one.
I've done the critical thinking. This is the other side of the equation. I did the math. This is the answer. If I were in a more powerful position in society; say one where I could affect this AT ALL -- I would do something different. But I'm not...so why stress myself about it?
Let's see if I got this right
We're violent and genocidal, so it's ok to eliminate people who are bad, unlike us, the violent genociders. It's also ok to eliminate the weak if you're strong, and you're fine with that because you're weak so you can't do anything about it.
Have you considered therapy?
Been to Therapy, was told they couldn't help me; that I wasn't wrong, I was just an asshole.
I hate humanity in almost every form. I don't give a shit about being a human being, human lives are worthless. My life is worthless, your life is worthless, their lives are worthless, it's all worthless.
It's meaningless but it is not worthless. Even yours, despite all of the horrendous, wannabe edgy shit you just posted. One day you will cringe about this, and you'll be a better person for it.
Sorry, if anything I've come to hold these beliefs more strongly as I get older. I won't look back at it and cringe, because it's not cringeworthy. It's an incredibly sad truth, that I wish were different. Humanity as a whole, sucks. Even the people here pretending they're better than I am. They're holding and using devices that rely on child slave labor to be produced, half the things they own are the result of others being taken advantage of. You just see more, and more, and more of it the more you're alive.
If you actually sat down and think of it -- and I have -- your posh dipshit little life of "oh save the CHILDREN!!!!" is covered in blood. All of it, from the house you live in, to the computer you're using to chastise me. What are you gonna do about it? You're gonna get on the internet and whine, and then in a few weeks, you'll continue using all your shit, and you'll be here...wasting your time, telling yourself how good a person you are because you "Care®".
You don't care any more than I don't care. You just feed yourself platitudes so you can feel superior and enlightened and drown out any actual thought on the matter truthfully.
The difference is the thing that I can admit plainly -- I don't care. I am not judging you. I'm the same way. We're ALL the same way. I've just lived enough life now that I don't care to sugar coat it any longer.
It's kind of like being religious and becoming atheist. The world is just a little darker when you don't have that belief system to hang onto. Some people REALLY need it. They can't live without it. You're the same. It's not religion though, it's a different security blanket; the blanket of thinking you're a good person because you have good thoughts and that those good thoughts make you better than someone who thinks differently.
I'm just an atheist to the everyday bullshit we tell ourselves to make us think we're better somehow. We're not.
Sorry, if anything I've come to hold these beliefs more strongly as I get older.
And how old are you?
You're so cool man. I don't know how you don't have a mountain of women at your feet. Cuz you're so cool.
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So we're just actively advocating genocide now?
At least we've gone from "stop calling it a genocide you darned leftists" to "genocide is good actually". I appreciate the honesty at least
I mean, we kill invasive species of animals don't we? Are we not animals? Most of the people in here "worried" about genocide are just those who are trying to stir up shit about how it's Biden's "fault".
They aren't worried about the genocide part, they're worried about the political ramifications of attempting to make a political opponent look bad. They're 3 Trump Supporters in a trench coat, pretending to care about something they think can land them political victory. You'll never hear anyone give a shit outside of a political season.
You should seek help from a mental health professional. Bye!
This is either sociopathy or psychopathy and I'm not sure which.
You aren't wrong, and they have been moderated and banned. But report them, don't attack them.
Fair enough!
The bombs don't avoid gay Palestinians.
You are advocating for the elimination of an entire ethnicity. Being an advocate for mass murder/genocide, do you consider your own life to be among those that is worth nothing and should be ended? You'd be a massive fucking hypocrite if you don't.
Don't cut yourself with all that edge.
Yikes
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