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If there are 10 people including you and the majority chooses who gets to be president and the vote ends up as 5 for Biden (including you) and 5 for Trump. Then the vote gets recast and the only thing that changes is that you decided not to vote for Biden, it would be 5/4 for Trump and the person responsible for electing Trump would be everyone who voted for him and you. If you had voted against Trump instead of abstaining, he would not have become president.
That's a very basic concept and it's clear that it extrapolates to the actual election.
voting for a bad person is bad.
Voting for a bad person to prevent a horrible person from winning is good.
not according to kant.
Screw Kant then.
deontological ethics are favored by most professional philosophers.
Woah there, hold your argumentum ad populum! No ethics model is unflawed and just because deontological ethics work often doesn't mean they don't have problems. Instead of looking at the actions you can take, let's look at the results that could be reached:
- Biden wins presidency
- Trump wins presidency
- 3rd party wins presidency
No 3rd party has ever achieved presidency. Votes for a 3rd party have instead commonly resulted in votes being drawn from one party benefiting the other. So realistically we could generalise to:
- Voting 3rd party: Aiding Trumps victory
- Voting Trump: Aiding Trumps victory
- Voting Biden: Aiding Trumps loss
I hate dichotomies as much as you, these shouldn't be the options, I would seriously love to be proven wrong. Am I missing something?
Thank you for spelling it out! Unfortunately, most of the "Biden is literally supporting a genocide which is why you should vote 3rd party) are suspiciously obtuse.
I am fairly sure this is part of a Russian Psy-Op aiming to demobilize Democrat-leaning voters in order to push their preferred candidate and sow division. Trump being elected again would be Putin's wet dream, since Trump would (try to) leave NATO and cut all support to Ukraine. With NATO gone and the US busy with infighting under an isolationist and repressive government, Putin would have free reign to stir more shit in eastern Europe to further his imperialist agenda.
For this reason, posters trying to frame voting for Biden as actively supporting genocide don't get the benefit of the doubt from me. And they're everywhere, unfortunately.
this kind of paranoid bad-jacketing of users is fucking disgusting. accusing users of being part of a state-sponsored psyop should be bannable across every community and instance. come with receipts, or keep your badfaith bullshit to yourself.
It's a good thing you don't make the rules, then!
are you running a CIA cointelpro operation?
hold your argumentum ad populum!
they are literally the experts.
this is pretty funny. there is good reason to be deontological about ethics, and giving the the philstudy survey is evidence for that.
jill stein says she's on track to hit 5% this fall, so that's an outcome you're not considering. also, biden has been enabling a genocide, but you dont seem to see any problem with putting himback in power.
You fail to see the point - intentionally, I assume.
your accusation of bad faith is, itself, bad faith
Except you ignore their arguments to put out a thought terminating cliche and they keep addressing your points. The one who reads as bad faith here is you.
I did consider this, I even adressed how this is an issue as it fails to aids Trump in winning the election. I do think that Biden is problematic and that the genocide in Palestine is wrong, however voting a 3rd party aids trump resulting in no changes in Palestine and changes for the worse for the rest of the world.
The only vote that AIDS Trump is a vote for Trump.