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Exploring Reddit’s third-party app environment 7 months after the APIcalypse

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Apollo dev: "I don’t believe Reddit’s leadership... cares about developers anymore."

Exploring Reddit’s third-party app environment 7 months after the APIcalypse
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  • TLDR: not worth reading the article, it's just a long list of third party apps that are no longer free anymore, totally ignoring matters such as their usage stats and more importantly the content itself that is now flat-out missing from Reddit. Go to any old thread and you'll see the "this content has been removed by" (whichever of the automated software to remove posts was used in that case) messages.

    Honestly it reads like a shill to promote Reddit as in "hey, all that fuss was for nothing - you should totally come back now". It got fairly obvious even at the start when it said that the protests lasts (edit: lasted) for "weeks" - not the more truthful "months", not "permanent changes", but the minimum amount they could halfway reasonably get away with stating.

    I am biased, and this article is far more so, and less forgivably so bc mine is a personal opinion while this is touted as "news".

    • totally ignoring matters such as their usage stats

      The author asked multiple devs about these things - they all had the same reply: Can't talk about it because NDA.

      more importantly the content itself that is now flat-out missing from Reddit. Go to any old thread and you’ll see the “this content has been removed by” (whichever of the automated software to remove posts was used in that case) messages.

      That's not the stated objective of the article, which was "Exploring Reddit’s third-party app environment."

      Honestly it reads like a shill to promote Reddit as in “hey, all that fuss was for nothing - you should totally come back now”.

      No, it doesn't. You don't call it an "APIcalypse" if you're shilling for Reddit. You don't pull out the most critical quote right at the top if you want to shill for Reddit. ("I don’t believe Reddit’s leadership... cares about developers anymore.") You don't mention Lemmy, or Threads, or Tildes if you're shilling for Reddit.

      You admit that you're biased; good, thank you. This article isn't.

    • I'm still protesting. Haven't been back since. Probably will protest until the sun is cold and black.

      • I've been back to Reddit a couple times... to make sure the automatically blanked content stays blanked 😶

      • Very rarely there may be something that you need. Even so, it is becoming increasingly rare to find that knowledge. Spez decided that he owns it now, though some of us here happen to disagree:-).

        Nor do you need a mobile app to use Reddit in any case:-). Anyway I think I am with you - we almost hear more about how Reddit is doing here in the Fediverse than we did back when we were on Reddit:-).

    • Meh. I mean it's not surprising. A lot of people including open source enthusiasts stuck with reddit despite everything.

      • Valid, but from a truth-in-reporting standpoint, those protests went on for MONTHS and MONTHS. Which I suppose could technically be reported as "weeks", but they could also be reported as "femtoseconds" and yet... seems to lose accuracy that way? :-P

        And like, I understand that the title of the article means that it is focusing narrowly on third-party apps not the state of Reddit as a whole, but (1) the scope still includes anything that it does choose to say, e.g. how long those protests lasted, and (2) it does not mention anywhere how e.g. third-party apps compare to the official Reddit app, or what their market share is with respect to one another, which seems the two most relevant questions of all?!

        Continuing on, a third question could be: do people like those apps? From the comments even in the article, it seems not... but without usage stats, even an app used by a single person counts the same as e.g. the former Apollo.

        i.e., How DOES the third-party app market look nowadays, after the protests? After reading this article, I still have no idea whatsoever... All I know is that there is a list of apps, which sounds like a singular detail devoid of any context that Reddit would very much like us to know, rather than anything that I would actually care about knowing in order to get a better picture of the situation as a whole.

        But that's just my two cents.:-)

      • It's always good to keep one's shill detector up on Ars vis-a-vis Reddit given the ownership situation. I've so far not seen anything that rises to that level, including here, because of the audience. If you're on Ars and don't know what Reddit is, this story isn't going to be of interest and thus is not going to push you to try using Reddit.

        That said, this story only seems relevant to the minuscule-if-at-all-extant sliver of Ars readers who know what Reddit is and haven't been using it only because they've been waiting to hear what paid apps look like eight months after the whole fiasco started. That's not a demographic I've ever seen represented in the comments.

    • There's quite a few mentions of Lemmy/Kbin in the comments, so at least word is spreading.

    • It’s always good to keep one’s shill detector up on Ars vis-a-vis Reddit given the ownership situation. I’ve so far not seen anything that rises to that level, including here, because of the audience. If you’re on Ars and don’t know what Reddit is, this story isn’t going to be of interest and thus is not going to push you to try using Reddit.

      That said, this story only seems relevant to the minuscule-if-at-all-extant sliver of Ars readers who know what Reddit is and haven’t been using it only because they’ve been waiting to hear what paid apps look like eight months after the whole fiasco started. That’s not a demographic I’ve ever seen represented in the comments.

    • I mean, I remember it being weeks myself.

      But it's not as if things went back to the way they were either. There were definitely effects due to those weeks.

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