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What's the plan for downvote federation?

Right now, downvotes (reduces) don't federate to (and from?) Kbin instances. This lack of federation makes the downvote counter really inaccurate—a comment that looks like it's +10 might be -15 when you look at it from lemmy.world.

This leaves me with a few questions:

  • Is downvote federation going to be implemented?
  • If so, is it a priority or something that'll happen much further down the line?
  • If not, will downvoting be removed?
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  • how it should work on kbin.social [?]

    In my view ideally upvotes and downvotes federate both ways, but I can also see why some admins might choose not to federate in downvotes.

    I guess the real question comes down to what you do with the information.
    I think currently the sort order is very heavily skewed towards boosts (which I actually quite like), but I do also sometimes wonder how it would look if the sort order was aligned with the reputation system (i.e. boost= two upvotes).
    Having both sort options available might be nice, (noting that we'll not federate in any boosts from Lemmy).

    If we did federate in downvotes the current sort order (which seems based on boosts less downvotes?) probably wouldn't make sense?

    ...I'm also be keen to see others thoughts on this!

    Edit: formatting

    • (i.e. boost= two upvotes).

      I think this is an interesting concept.

      Lemmy users don’t have boosts, so they would not be able to deliver “two upvotes” but I also think kbin shouldn’t be limited by what lemmy can or cannot do.

      Having both sorting algorithms for both upvotes and boosts available as a sort option might be the most fair way forward.

      • @CoffeeAddict I might be wrong but I think boosts are more important when we interact with Mastodon?

        • A boost is effectively a retweet. The thing you boost gets re-shared from you to the people that follow you ... the stuff I boost with this account is gets added to my feed on my Mastodon account. You're basically saying "damn, I love this comment and want to make sure everyone else gets a chance to see it too!"

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