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U.S., Israel and Hamas reach tentative deal to pause conflict and free dozens of hostages

www.washingtonpost.com Israel and Hamas reach tentative U.S.-brokered deal to pause conflict, free dozens of hostages

Israel, the United States and Hamas are close to an agreement to free dozens of women and children held hostage in Gaza, in exchange for the first sustained pause in conflict in Gaza, according to people familiar with its provisions.

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Israel and Hamas reach tentative U.S.-brokered deal to pause conflict, free dozens of hostages

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U.S., Israel and Hamas reach tentative deal to pause conflict and free dozens of hostages

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That's such wonderful news.
Of course Joe Biden won't get a lick of credit for it from "progressives", Hamas apologists and Israel bashers because he didn't try to force an immediate ceasefire on Bibi. He knows how diplomacy works and got it done.
Hamas still needs to be obliterated.
- Of course Joe Biden won’t get a lick of credit for it from “progressives”
  I'll credit him, provided this turns out to be what it says on the tin.
  But hey, you'll keep calling anyone to the left of Joe Manchin a hamas apologist.
- You sound like a shithead by the way you put quote around progressives.
  
  they said "hamas apologist" we we know for fact they're an asshole
  
  Just because someone calls themselves progressive doesn't make them one. Sometimes they are just trying to sell bad ideas, like you are now.
  
  What Idea did I sell? That people who put quotes around a word to point out something is fake?
  You're the one selling the idea that Hamas is a bunch of tagged enemies in a video game quest that blares out "Mission success" when you kill enough people.
  Hamas; like the Taliban, is an idea. Trying to put this flame out with indiscriminate violence is like fanning the coal in a kiln. Fanning with more intensity only going to strengthen the fire.
  You and people who don't get this are calling progressives fake. Whereas the reality is that Israel either doesn't understand this, or they simply don't care about collateral because Netanyahu just wants to empty the contents of his closet into the rubble created by the IDF in gaza when everyone is distracted. (I am holding out hope as apparently, bibi's approval is down).
  The only idea that any conservative of any religion is selling around the world right now is that Muslims are procreating faster than any other demographic and this is a cause for others to scrutinize and curtail this.
  Be warned: Fear is one of the main things that causes men to commit atrocities.
  
  Centrists found their equivalent of GWB apologists' "terrorist sympathizer" and they're gonna keep using it against progressives until it stops working.
  
  Hamas; like the Taliban, is an idea.
  FFS. Hamas are terrorist assholes who rape and murder in the most vile ways. They represent no one and especially no ideas.
  
  You're just projecting being decent on brainwashed youth who became terrorists. Hence you cannot find any thing resembling ideology in their behavior. Doesn't mean there isn't one.
  
  They said the same thing about Nelson Mandela and the freedom fighters in South Africa.
  Tell me did the Taliban go to America to take revenge on random civilians after the real terrorists got off their land? Or was the problem that they had an American terrorist drug cartel trying to take over their country?
  
  So now you are going to compare terrorists to Nelson Mandela? Maybe you can point out when Mandela raped and murdered a granddaughter in front of her disabled grandmother. History isn't your strong point. Stick with stupidity.
  
  Haha my man Nelson was on the terror watchlist until 2008.
  https://time.com/5338569/nelson-mandela-terror-list/
  South Africa didn't gain their freedom by striking in jail you sweet summer child. Nelson Mandela was in the South African version of what Hamas is right now.
  Freedom fighters that use violence are all called terrorists for 80 years and then they're suddenly heroes that fought for their rights and freedom.
  Just wait until you discover racism in America wasn't solved by Rosa Parks sitting on a bus either.
  
  So you can't point out a Mandela terrorist raid. Not one. You can't point to the time, like Hamas, when Mandela forces gang raped a woman and as they did that cut off her breast and then shot her in the head while they were still raping her. The best you can do is point to western stupidity, a realm you know well. Please think.
  
  "progressives" be like "I love China, and Russia, hate the US and NATO, I support Hamas, and I never vote Democrat because 'I won't choose the lesser of two evils'" then call us 'libs' on Lemmy like it's an insult because we like Biden. 🤷‍♂️
  
  creates an aggregate of the most annoying people on the internet in the least charitable way possible and paints everyone left of center with it... wow I can't believe these "progressives" these days.
  
  I mean, it's a pretty accurate aggregate of Hexbear and lemmygrad and they're pretty popular.
  
  Oh now I get what you mean. You and I, we don't have the same definition of progressives: neither in scope, nor in stances.
  
  I mean, I put quotations around progressives because the small subset of online self proclaimed progressives in places like Hexbear and lemmygrad are like the above.
  For me a real progressive is someone like Biden who just got an agreed 5 day ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, kept other nations from escalating, and has a record of passing progressive legislation, especially as president. Also, for me, a "progressive" is someone like Jill Stein who has lunch with Putin, supports the Ukraine invasion, and only runs to get Republicans elected.
  
  Jill Stein doesn't support the Ukraine invasion
  
  she didn't have lunch with Putin
- Make the cease fire all about you and your dumb opinions.
  
  I'm sorry, is this not a place to express your views?
- Hamas still needs to be obliterated.
  Well that's one way to waste time and human lives.

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