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Bulletins and News Discussion from November 6th to November 12th, 2023 - Apartheid Antony's Asinine Adventure

From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff

The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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  • It's surreal to watch people I knew in High School post about Palestine. The same people that heard bullshit propaganda with me. I can't help to feel the tide is changing. Question is what can we do with the tide changing? Our government is a tidal wall.

    • Entirely anecdotal of course but I don’t know a single “normal” person under 40 who supports Israel. Was partying last weekend and one new guy said he was part Israeli, literally every person in the room just starred at him for a moment until he said “don’t worry guys I support Palestine”. There have been increasingly large pro-palestinian protests in my irrelevant shitstain midwest city every single weekend, not a pro Israel rally in sight.

      Honestly never seen such a significant gap between the foreign policy of my country and what the vast majority of people want and believe in. Tide definitely changing, hopefully it continues.

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        • Yeah honestly, you could tell me that 99.99999% of the American population supports Palestine, I would still be like "So what?" Westerners do not live in societies with democratic representation and their views do not matter. I believe that the Israeli state will cease to exist in the short to medium term, but I don't think even a speck of that achievement will belong to people who are pro-Palestine but otherwise not doing anything. The people blocking military shipments and weapons factories are the real Western resistance to Israel, not people protesting.

          To clarify, I don't think protests are useless, but I do think that their effects are only felt in the long-term - people joining them and feeling their alienation melt away for just a while, or joining orgs at protests, or even getting teargassed and radicalized against police. None of this helps in the here and now against Israel though, even if it'll have knock-on effects creating a revolutionary potential in the population as Western conditions deteriorate.

          • I was trying to hammer this in to some reddit-logo people, that voting and marching don't matter, and they just wouldn't even entertain the idea that passive performance isn't helpful and direct action is needed.

          • What do you think the result is going to be? A South Africa/Rhodesia-style recognition of mutual destruction and acceptance of majority rule? An SA scenario, even if comparable especially considering their WMDs, doesn't seem likely considering the current fascist leadership and its importance as a lynchpin for the US empire. I feel like any other solution then brings us into Samson Option territory.

      • Yeah. I see quite a few people I know don't really trust Hamas. Basically 20+ years of Islamophobic propaganda and our own experiences with religious people in charge, but even they are saying they get their militancy when seeing what Israel will do to Palestinians.

        Also yeah there is an Israeli guy that my group knows. Nice guy to us, but as I warned my friends, just wait until Palestine comes up, and I was right. Insta feed around the 7th was all Israeli propaganda, however he seems to have shut up now.

    • I’ve said many times that unless there is a left wing movement that can channel the protest energy into direct action, nothing will get done.

      Remember when everyone thought Bernie’s momentum was unstoppable, and Biden wasn’t even in the top 3? In just a few months that energy had all but dissipated.

      Remember when BLM seemed like it was going to achieve something? In a few months everyone had forgotten about it.

      It’s the same here. In a few months everyone will get distracted by something new (Taiwan?), then they’d jump on to the next trendy and flashy stuff and quickly forget the last thing they had followed.

      This is why organization is so important. The left failed to capture that energy during COVID, during BLM, during the Ukraine War, this is why the ruling class is not afraid of leftist opposition and protests in this country.

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