Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II
Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II
This is the second megathread for discussion regarding the crisis.
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I am going to use this thread to make a continuation of what I've posted in the first megathread where I shared a plethora of related links that share insight on the nature of this conflict.
Reports
#Nakba
Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs
Classified Docs Reveal Massacres of Palestinians in '48 – and What Israeli Leaders Knew
'I Saw Fit to Remove Her From the World'
Zionist Militia’s Efforts to Recruit Nazis in Fight Against the British Are Revealed
#Recent Events
Using an Attack Dog, Israeli Women Soldiers Forced Palestinian Women to Undress
Cigarette Burns, Beatings, Attempted Sexual Assault: Settlers and Soldiers Abused Palestinians
Israeli Settler Documented Shooting Palestinian at Point-blank in the West Bank
Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Hundreds Involved in Attacking Arabs and Leftists, but Israel Police Arrest Only Four
Far-right Israeli Knesset Member Zvi Sukkot to Head Subcommittee on the West Bank
Perspectives
#Videos
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
^ Here's an interview regarding recent events.
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
^At 1:43:50, Finklestein asserts that Israel would bomb a residential area, wait for people to come out and call an ambulance, and then bomb the ambulance.
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
^At 00:24:15, Ali asserts that Israel is willing to shoot their own civilians as evidenced by the Hannibal Directive, verifiable events, and testimonies such as Yasmin Porat's where the IDF was shooting indiscriminately and even fired tank shells into Israeli homes.
#Articles
How colonizers weaponize rape: reflections from the Palestinian case
Opinion | Dying in Southern Gaza: 'I Want to Go Home. At Least I’ll Die After Drinking Fresh Water'
Opinion | Amid the Mourning, Israel's Settlement Enterprise Celebrates a Great Victory
Testimonials
Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are right to resist" - Former IDF soldier talks about how he realized that his actions were perpetuating apartheid, and that Palestinians were right to resist through any means.
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant ^[There is a whole-ass documentary for those interested.
Breaking the Silence - Israeli NGO where IDF veterans testify their experiences. Some examples:
If you find any other notable background information, feel free to share.
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Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are right to resist"
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant
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I recommend this book written by Ilan Pappe a jewish historian, who now lives and works in UK.
Here will be a compiled list of 972 magazine articles related to this conflict, continually updated as I delve into this harrowing treasure trove of information:
July 31, 2015: Palestinian baby burned to death in West Bank arson attack
July 31, 2016: A year since the Duma murders: Navigating justice and pain
October 12, 2020: For Israel, tens of thousands of Palestinian newborns don’t exist
June 8, 2021: Settlers shot Palestinian and mutilated his body as he lay dying
July 15, 2021: Joint militias: How settlers and soldiers teamed up to kill four Palestinians
April 5, 2022: Israel charges Palestinian journalists with incitement — for doing their jobs
April 10, 2022: Israel’s false promise of security
May 25, 2022: Israel says this book justifies Masafer Yatta expulsions. Its author begs to differ
July 8, 2022: This Israeli forbids Palestinians from building. He lives in an illegal outpost
July 11, 2022: Classified document reveals IDF ‘firing zones’ built to give land to settlers
August 11, 2022: ‘We killed a little boy, but it was within the rules’
August 30, 2022: Israel destroyed Palestinian village for luxury settlement that was never built
September 15, 2022: How Israeli media reported a ‘lynching’ that never happened
September 26, 2022: ‘We built the Palestinian Authority with blood. We won’t give up on it’
November 8, 2022: “He asked me how many children I have. Then he said: ‘Now you have one less.'”
October 5, 2022: In Jenin and Nablus, resistance and despair go hand in hand
January 24, 2023: A coming out party for Israel’s religious Jewish left
February 16, 2023: The theft of Harun Abu Aram’s body, home, and life
February 27, 2023: The pogrom is the point
March 2, 2023: ‘They were burning our house with kids inside. The army didn’t let us through’
March 5, 2023: ‘I couldn’t see if my brother’s murderer was a soldier or settler’
March 13, 2023: ‘Who hits a 64-year-old woman with a bat?’
March 22, 2023: Armed settlers break into Palestinian family home under cover of darkness
May 3, 2023: Revealed: The IDF unit turning ‘hilltop youth’ settlers into soldiers
November 13, 2023: How a hasbara group’s sham investigation put Gaza journalists in the firing line
November 23, 2023: What Israelis won’t be asking about the Palestinians released for hostages
November 30, 2023: A mass assassination factory’: Inside Israel’s calculated bombing of Gaza
December 8, 2023: ‘It would’ve been better if they shot us’: Palestinians recount prison abuse
December 11, 2023: ‘Diseases are spreading rapidly’: In Jabalia camp, thousands shelter in one school
December 19, 2023: Gaza’s rescue workers are haunted by those they couldn’t save
December 19, 2023: A Palestinian student briefly deleted her social media. Israel revoked her permit
December 28, 2023: Palestinian Christians in Gaza fear being ‘swept under the rubble or into the desert’
July 15 2021
More articles from the author of this piece: Yuval Abraham
Thank you for this. Very helpful.
They migrated from North Arabia and took Jewish land every time the Jews were forcefully removed by a long line of oppressors. Then, when every Arab country started kicking out Jews, thy had nowhere to go but their homeland. When they arrived in the early 40's en masse, the Palestinian leader met with Hitler to see about exterminating them. You got the colonizer/colonized dynamic backwards. This is what happens when you get your info from Facebook.
I saw this YouTube comment where people were arguing whether the Palestinians or Jewish people were there first. Does anyone know how accurate this comment is?
Seems like baseless rhetoric to justify the ongoing colonization and atrocities of the past century.
First, Arabs and Hebrews both have ancestry dating to the Levant back in the bronze age. Many of the Jews back then would have descendents that would later convert to Christianity and Islam.
Second, up until the colonial era, when the Jews were being persecuted by European nations, they sought refuge under Arab and Muslim rule. One notable example would be the Muslim Sultan, Salah ad-Din, allowing Jews to resettle in Jerusalem after the European Crusaders brutally kicked them out. Another example would be the treatment of Jews under the Ottoman Empire.
Third, even if all of this was not true, that does not justify the ongoing oppression, atrocities, ethnic cleansing, genocide of the indigenous people for the past 75 years, nor does it change who is and isn't a colonizer and the colonized. This video gives a good explanation on why.
Thanks! You seemed very informed about the conflict so yours felt like a good comment to ask that question under, which had been on my mind since I saw it under an old Abby Martin video of her interviews with Israelis. That video looks like it will probably take some time to watch but it gives me a place to start.
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This video gives a good explanation on why.
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