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Collapse takes decades. It's happening now and has been since 9/11.
if not since 9/11 then since Reagan, which shows how long it has taken.
Reagan did shit that was easily reversible but never got reversed
W committed us to multiple wars costing trillions of dollars and making us even more enemies than we already had
they both wrecked the economy and country in their own special way.
Why particularly 9/11?
Clearly defined shift in foreign policy that also began hollowing out our economy in earnest, very easy to point to as a tipping point
but those $600 in bush bucks was nice, just had to let them loot everything else
That's not a bad date to pin it at. Reminds me of how there's multiple dates that historians place the end of the Roman Empire at