Hey, new federated user from Hexbear here
Hey, new federated user from Hexbear here
Just curious how many of you are cool with this deeply racist image being the header for one of your comms
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For context, the joke is that the authoritarian dictator of china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo in relation to their leader after chinease people started saying he looked like the character.
You can go to jail for wearing a poo bear t-shirt. A children's cartoon is now an icon of resistance, which is wild.
This is no different than that LGBT Putin image that'll get you put in jail in russia.
The yellow skin is, in my opinion, kinda fucked though. I know that the vast majority of people on here using it don't mean it that way but the effect would be kept while not changing the skin colour. The ears and red shirt are enough. Again though, the people using it are not necessarily racist for doing so.
To pre-empt the enevitable user entirely disinterested in conversation trying to epicly own me as has been the entire post from OP, yes, I'm entirely ok with this. You can 'mark me down' as whatever you wish.
For the hexbear users (or others) who want a conversation, out of curiosity, does your issue extend to the existance of this community on our platform? Is the issue only with the yellow skin? Does this, and if so how, make the people using it racist or would you say a non-racist person would never use this?
china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo
https://www.shanghaidisneyresort.com/en/entertainment/theme-park/characters-meet-pooh/
That's actually a mislabeled image of Grinny the Goo, an unrelated character.
also thought of Winnie the Pooh with Chinese Characteristics
the joke is that the authoritarian dictator of china has outlawed depictions of whiney the poo after chinease people started saying he looked like the character.
Wow, that is a joke. It's not a very good joke. Who came up with it?
(That literally never happened)
Xi Jinping did https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
Also if this is about asian racism why is japans prime minister not represented by a yellow character?
People have been jailed for this
Edit: better links. Radio Free Asia can't really be trusted
https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
For clarity, my first source: https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/tweets-01232020164342.html
Radio Free Asia cited
You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here.
Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
You truly have epicly owned me, with facts, and logic even.
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You can refer to the picture in iridaniotter’s comment for evidence countering the assertion that Winnie the Pooh is not depicted within China in any capacity. As for your claims about Luo Daiqing, the Axios article cites a court document that is written entirely in Mandarin and a Twitter account that has been suspended, while the article on the Daily Dot relies on the Axios piece, so unless you’re able to read Mandarin, you posted a source who’s validity you and most other people here have no way of confirming because it validated what you already believed.
For the record, I am assuming that Luo was arrested and sentenced for the reason Axios alleges they were out of good faith, but your apparent inability to vet the sources you link, which is evidenced by both what I talked about above and the fact that you initially posted nothing but an almost comically transparent propaganda piece, is troubling nonetheless
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Free_Asia_(Committee_for_a_Free_Asia)
Your citation is CIA propaganda.
You are correct, that's a shit source. They've lied alot in the past, apologies for my failure here.
Here are some better sources: https://www.axios.com/2020/01/23/china-arrests-university-minnesota-twitter
https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/china-student-arrested-xi-jinping/
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-china-blog-40627855
Thank you for the correction
The first two articles are not about a ban on Winnie the Pooh in China which was the subject of the original claim, so I'll put a pin in that.
Your BBC link isn't really a better source than RFA. Instead of a cutout it's just state media. And what's in that article is just a straight up lie.
You can talk to actual people in China. They can take photos with their cameras of the displays of licensed Disney products with Winnie the Pooh for sale. The idea that they banned Winnie the Pooh is cold war propaganda. And it can only be maintained in a bubble.
That is a quora link my dude, and is not a reasonable citation. Just some guy. To claim it's a lie with your proof being a random dude on quora, a site I frequent due to their insane conspiracy theories, nazi delusion and trump dick sucking, and obviously made up stories, is not convincing.
You are correct though, the concept of winnie the pooh is not fully banned, just in refference to their authoritarian leader. As all critisism of their government is censored, or banned.
Secondarily, these posts do speak on winnie the pooh.
From the first article:
Thirdly, I could give you a million links and they'd always be 'propaganda'. I need you to substantiate that for the BBC. Here's a few more: https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/winnie-the-pooh-china-ban https://wikiless.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China?lang=en https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/18/asia/china-pooh-censor-trnd/index.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/07/china-reportedly-bans-disneys-winnie-the-pooh-film-after-xi-compariso.html https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165504942/winnie-the-pooh-xi-jinping-china-film https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/south-park-banned-chinese-internet-critical-episode-1245783/
Lastly, I know many Chinese people, and talk to them frequently about this subject. The issue to you seems to be that I'm talking to the 'wrong' Chinese people. This 'if you just speak to these people' argument is never a convincing one. On either side, Chinese people arguing for or against either of our opinions on the subject does not provide proof for or against. Nearly half of Americans think that Joe Biden is a socialist. I hope we can agree that's dumb
No they haven't, you cited one of the most transparent sources of lies currently active on Earth.
Wow i cannot get a single response from any of you guys. I take it ive hit an indefensible chord
yes, I'm entirely ok with this. You can 'mark me down' as whatever you wish.
Very well. I'll put you down as neutral on racism due to the nuanced take on the issue in your post