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In Trump-voting Iowa, farmers have started to shout at each other

www.thetimes.com

“What was he convicted of?” someone asked.

“He had tattoos on his body,” she replied triumphantly.

“Hey, smartass!” shouted a woman in her sixties, jumping to her feet. “You want to see my tattoo?”

“Lady,” the Trump supporter said. “You don’t know what a tattoo is.”

“Yes I do, I’ve got one!” the woman shouted, tapping her chest.

The Trump supporter dismissed her with a wave of one hand. “I’ve had enough of you Democrats,” she said.

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Imagine believing that the best days of the US are ahead of you...
I'm sure improvements will be made, but the United States is dying, thanks in large part due to the cancer that's rightwing propaganda networks
- Honestly, I don't want the United states to be a thing anymore. It is time for the nation to break up, so that people can choose what sort of government they want to live in. In my case, I would like something modeled after European socialism. I am sick of Fascist America dragging down my state with its evil and stupidity.
  
  European Socialism? Come on, we are supposed to be better than "socialism is when health care".
  I know what you want to say, but last time I checked, every EU country had millionaires and beggars, a market economy, most companies were in the hand of private citizens or shareholders, and guaranteed private property (with the usual legal exceptions).
  Don't be like the populists. Words have meanings and meanings matter. It is social market economy at most.
  
  Uncapping the House would go a long way towards rebalancing.
  
  The problem with that plan is that you get an outwardly fascist neighbor with no guardrails at all. Yes it will burn itself out eventually but before that it's going to be just as much of a problem as when it was states.
  
  Better to fight an enemy that is outside, rather than a foe within. We also don't have sturdy guardrails - just ask federal employees, and the American citizens who have been trafficked to Honduras.
  
  But the foes would always be within. This isn’t just red vs blue, it’s rural vs urban. Oregon goes Blue every time, but you drive 30 minutes out of the city and it’s Trump Central.
  
  Not sure what you mean by European socialism, but you do NOT want the socialism that was attempted in eastern European countries.
  
  my brother in christ, all western european countries are socialist welfare states with a capitalistic market. Media wants you to believe that, what we have is communism, but socialism is so far off Marxism / Communism, as Turbo-capitalism is off of socialism. Beat the red scare and don't carry on their dumb talking points. Socialism is the way to go
  
  Good luck with that. Honestly.
  
  That about sums it up. There are no obviously good options for the situation, so we are all left to gamble on a guess and a prayer that things work out.
- If I ever get diagnosed with a terminal disease. I know what I’m doing before I go out.

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