US approves sending F-16s to Ukraine from Denmark and Netherlands
US approves sending F-16s to Ukraine from Denmark and Netherlands
The United States has approved sending F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine from Denmark and the Netherlands to defend against Russian invaders as soon as pilot training is completed, a U.S. official said on Thursday.
"I am writing to express the United States' full support for both the transfer of F-16 fighter aircraft to Ukraine and for the training of Ukrainian pilots by qualified F-16 instructors [...] It remains critical that Ukraine is able to defend itself against ongoing Russian aggression and violation of its sovereignty" said Blinken.
Will this solidify a Ukrainian victory?
U.S. officials have privately said that F-16 jets would have been of little help to Ukraine in its current counteroffensive and will not be a game changer when they eventually arrive given Russian air defense systems and contested skies over Ukraine
Or will Russian radar and missle systems tear them up?
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Ask yourself; why does the US have to approve this?
I don't have to ask myself, this is a well known fact, not some secret gotcha.
Exactly, literally documented!
That's what they want you to think.
You can actually look it up. Munitions cannot be sold or transferred without the consent of the fabricating country. Asking yourself is so much better when you've got facts!
That's not necessarily true.
In the case of the F-16 program, the countries buying the planes agree not to transfer them without permission. Breaking that agreement means the US would stop selling weapons to those countries.
Some arms do not have this kind of agreement, and can be transfered on a whim.
Ask yourself, why are we selling/ leasing weapons?
Why telling people to ask themselves, when you could just say what you want to say?
If you're trying to communicate and get a point across that's way better.
Because people don’t want to be told what to think. It’s more effective if they discover it themselves.
A discussion is not about telling people what to think, but rather that you disseminate what it is you think, so that people may respond to it.
So you do want to change the way people think, ideally into the way you think... butttt you want them to find out by themselves.
If that's your way of communicating, in my personal opinion, thats not very efficient, and a bit
dumbcounterproductive..You know what’s dumb? Calling someone dumb whose mind your trying to change. I don’t want people to think like me, but I do want them to think for themselves. Not just reapplying jingoistic talking points they pull from the ether.
First you are intentionally vague, trying to get someone to make your argument for you.
Now you are acting like this other poster is trying to change your mind when they literally never tried that, they just pointed out how obnoxious your style of communication is.
I could say the same of you.
Yes, but throwing back what someone just isn't very mature either.
If you just respond with a straightforward explanation of how you see things, people will respond better. Even if people disagree, at least they'd appreciate not having to play some game to figure out what your view is.
The tankies are right. Now disagree.
But then you'd not be truthful.
Oh, you want the truth. Neoliberal capitalism is the cause of climate change that is feeding the fascism that will overtake America and potentially destabilize the world. But sure, let’s talk about inane shit that means nothing in the big scheme of things.
I'm not trying to change your mind at all, nor would I see myself as capable of doing that. I was merely saying that your method of discourse might be detrimental to what you are trying to say.
I will retract my dumb statement and will reword it to say 'counterproductive', sorry for the insult.
Ask yourself, why James Bond is never seen having a shit?
Ask yourself why people are apathetic and make jokes about war?
Ask yourself why Chuck Norris doesn't just RKO pootin out of a 10th story window 🤨🤔🧐
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
I did ask myself. Then I looked it up and the reason makes perfect sense.
Then you’re not asking the right questions. Who is benefiting monetarily from this war?
Because we made the things and only lease them to other countries? Mainly cause other countries don't want the full maintenance costs of our platforms.
I don't know that is the case, but it seems like a fairly logical way to ensure that our platforms don't get sold on the black market by anyone other than US