Can we agree we need to get these meek fuckers out of leadership
Schumer relented one day after vowing that Senate Democrats would thwart the "partisan" measure, saying the "chaos" of a government shutdown would be a worse option.
Absolutely useless
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I love how these conversations happen many times every session, but then campaign time comes and everyone calls me a Russian asset for reminding people of what the "Blue No Matter Who" mentality gets you.
You're either with the oligarchs or you're with the terrorists
This is the proper attitude for primaries, not general elections.
The time to have that conversation is before and during the primaries. After that, it's not a worthwhile conversation.
The message isn't the issue, your timing is.
LOL
What primaries? The Democrats invented superdelegates to subvert democracy in the primary process, and then argued in court in Florida that it was their right to do so when they were sued for it.
Good point. Better to do nothing then. Give up.
Or get more involved in the only party with a chance and change them from the inside?
No, that sounds like work. Forget it.
It is a good point, and I'm not advocating for doing nothing, just acknowledging that change via the Democrats is impossible. Unless you've been asleep for 40 years, you're well aware that real, meaningful change is impossible in this party duopoly, and nothing underscores that more than running a publicly brain-dead man and the entire "progressive" party apparatus lining up behind him in order to suit his fragile, stupid ego.
What I advocate for is doing good with one's own two hands, because that's always possible. Be willing to pick up dog shit even if it's not yours. When someone in your building asks for a favor, be generous with your time. When ICE comes knocking, and they will, find that maybe you have difficulty remembering things. (And if you really want to underscore how shitty the Democrats are, remember that Tom Homan was also Obama's guy.)
I agree. But my point is that the Democrats are the only tool we have at the moment within the government.
We have plenty of tools outside of the government, and you're 100% right that we should use those as well.
But let's not throw out the one tool we have inside the government. Let's improve it so it's useful.
Do we have Democrats as a tool inside the government? Are you sure they aren't another of the oligarchs' tools?
It's both. And they're the most likely group that we could turn to our purposes.
That's the thing, we don't.
The Democrats in Washington do not give a fuck about you, me, our families, or anyone else. They exist to do performative things and make nice speeches, then go vote in a manner that can be charitably called conservative but more often enables fascism. For example, remember when they did their nice little stunt kneeling in Congress with their African wear? Those same Democrats linked up behind Biden when he wanted to militarize the police even more.
The only power you or I have is local unless you're willing to commit an extraordinary act of vigilantism or you're a billionaire. That's it.
So join local Democrat groups
Democrats blame progressives for their losses.
A broken tool is no tool at all
I can tell you've never had to sweep or shovel with something when half the haft is gone. Or tear the lid off a garbage can because the mechanism to lift the lid stopped working.
That's what I've always had to work with when it comes to representatives in this country. It's cuz you and your neo liberal Democratic friends think the rest of us don't deserve working equipment. Only your Rich donors do.
Do you actually think the person you're replying to has a bunch of neoliberal Dem friends? Do you really believe they have rich donors?
I see this here on lemmy a lot and I'm sorry to tell you no one with the power to do anything is here so you're wasting your energy lecturing. But you got to feel smug and superior so I guess that's something.
/c/im14andthisisdeep
Liberals are, for all their talk, in a Stockholm Syndrome kind of love with the DNC. BlueMAGA is some combination of a death cult and an abusive relationship.
BlueMAGA sounds like weak bothsidesism, come up with some real criticism
I did.
Liberals are, for all their talk, in a Stockholm Syndrome kind of love with the DNC.
It is very culty.
